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i gotta stop saving your butt j/k....

time to update your sig gif. You don't have Neuspeeds anymore!

 
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ya, and i also dont have that kit and the rims. haha maybe it is time to change it...

 
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Well, the only thing which led me to getting it was their advertised 0-4 inch drop. My preference was within the promise of their advertised product.

But what I don't get is if I really do have RSX rears, and RSXs have Civic rears, how can we tell? Maybe it's the size of the lower collars? Well, I'll be calling Hayame in mere moments.

 
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Hayame told me to contact the vendor... doing so now.

 
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I'm sure I can drop mine down to 4"... I dont think the ad ment it can drop down 4" with preload, I think it meant it can drop down 4" when you take it off.
the springs have numbers on them, i'm assuming they're part numbers

 
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Mike from UrbanImport told me to resend the rears to him and he will replace them with another set of rear Hayame's. He is out of stock for the Civic ones so it will be a month before I can get another set which is understandable. He also mentioned that he never heard this occuring before. I put a word in for you RSX guys who had problems raising the car.

Although I'm not completely sure, he said that the uppermount on the rear RSX suspension is different than the ones for the Civics, but I'm not sure about that because it's known that RSX rear upper strut tower bars fit Civics just as fine. Oh well, that's not the issue. I just want my ride height back.

 
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But that's not the case with the few RSX owners. Their issue was that they were too low and had too much preload. If they took preload off, this meant that their rear tires would be tucked.

I WISH I had that issue! Because when you ride without preload, the struts bottom out and pop when the car goes up because they aren't secured. They will handle like crap - it's not worth riding without a little preload. In the pics I posted, I was like nearly an inch below before the spring was secured.

Oh yeah, and the # on the spring is different on the RSX ones. There's a pic of both front and rear coilovers with the spring #s faced up. That member did not have any issues with his height.

The rear springs on the Civic and RSX Hayames are the same size but I'm convinced that it's most definintitely not the difference in springs.

 
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what else would it be? Right now i'm thinking the spring rates are off. If the rsx had civic springs, it would cause the rear to be too low cause the civic ones are softer.

what are the numbers on the rsx, what are the numbers on yours? i'll check mine when I get home tonight and if i remember

 
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my hayames are making popping noises whenever i turn the wheel left to right when the car is standing still the resistance from the tires causes the noise because it doesnt occur when the car is in motion. the noise is a continous pop when i turn, not just one pop like i use to have with my blown shocks any ideas on what it could be? i know its not the shocks, but i do know it is the front right suspension. any feed back would be nice. i may have double posted. sorry

 
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make sure the 3rd locknut is tight, really tight

i had the car jacked up, loosened the 3rd locknut then tried turning the wheel and it made the noise

 
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Well, time to post my experience with Hayame rears.

I couldn't ask for an easier install, since they come with upper mounts and all. A full Hayame install should take 2-3 hours, maybe 1 hour with experienced assistance.

I installed only the rears this afternoon. The rears will pretty much be my deciding factor on whether or not I keep the Hayames over my B+Gs, from what I've read. I want to test them out for a week or so, see how they settle, how they feel.



I began this adventure figuring the B+Gs would come out ahead, simply because I was satisfied with them; handled great, slammed well. If I was just as satisfied with the Hayames I could get my money back by selling the B+Gs for about the same price.



Here we have the B+G and Hayame rear strut. Before I installed anything, I adjusted the height of the Hayame to its lowest point and guestimated the maximum amount of preload i could have while still retaining that 'slammed' look.



ahh. here we are, 20 seconds later. You notice the jack under the control arm-- well, because the strut was smaller than the B+G/stock strut (being at its smallest height), i had to compress it to allow the 2 strut tower bolts to reach the top after securing the bottom eyelet. Once they were screwed on, that was that.

It was not long after that a weeping darkness overcame the brisk sun.



This is where I finalized the height before I lowered the car-- perfectly even on both sides. so I went out for a test drive-- about 5 miles. the result:



Lowering the car anymore would eliminate any preload the rear still has. you know how easy it is for the mind to play tricks on you when making a modification to your car-- you think you feel a difference, but once you park the car, you think it was all mind-set. Catch 22. I dunno, based on the single drive I took, I feel an advantage to the B+Gs, but is it really because i began this project feeling biased toward B+Gs?

I would be happy with the hayames; I think the most critical issue for me is the 'damn they just dont go low enough in the rear' issue. I will either give them time to settle and see what happens, or move on with my B+Gs and sell the Hayame's locally, install included (because who doesn't enjoy a good 'spring' install )

for the time being, the fronts shall remain in the box. I'll continue to monitor this thread to read other reviews.

 
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omg i hope they sink ALOT lower than that because i cant drive it like that... and on a side note has n e one shipped stuff thru ups b4? i checked the tracking # on mine and it says they were delivered today, but i didnt receive n e thing???? it says they were delivered and "signed for" by justin , does that mean i got f*cked? i was even at home when it says it was delivered??? theres no note saying they were here or n e thing either????????? arghhhhhhhhhh!!!???

 
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That's only a bit lower than me but it looks like your tire/wheel combo might be bigger than mine in overall diameter. If that's as low as you can go then I rest my case.

Looking at yours, the only thing that makes me curious is the size of your lower collar. It might be an optical illusion but in pics, yours looks taller than mine though I could be very wrong.

 
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Shipping address correct?
Someone else at your place could've co-signed for it if you don't live alone.

Call UPS immediately.

 
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Civic- (at least on mine)
Front: 0700.2.50.008
Rear: 62.135.010

RSX-
Front: 0700.2.50.010
Rear: 0530.2.50.010

 
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How's everyone. I just installed the hayame coilovers. The installation went pretty smooth. I just had a question for everyone. My front coilovers are set up pretty good it's just the rears make a clanking, popping noise when i go over bumps. It's pretty stiff in the back, do you guys think I probably set the preload a little bit more than I should of. I have a two finger gap all the way around and the handling is awesome. I would appreciate any advice I get. Thanks guys.

 
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now, this is odd.

MY rear springs: 0530.2.50.010

MY front springs: 0700.2.50.008


the box says HAY10.71.17

can anyone else with Hayames post their rear spring #?
better check with hayame on this one.

 
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ok, I think i just took my final test drive with the Hayame rears. I set the height down a bit more, to the point where the spring was almost at the point of having no preload at all.



after another 5 mile course of bumps, dips, and hard turning,





this is where I have my B+Gs set currently. THIS is the height I want them at. where there's no gap between the wheel and the fenderwell. Of course, they have only been settling for 2 days now.. the height could very well drop another .5 inches over the next 3-4 weeks of normal driving. Just like the B+Gs i have now, I initially had them set down real low, then i had to raise the height because they settled to be even lower than I anticipated.

Unfortunately, the ride quality isn't as nice as my B+Gs. When i first got my B+Gs, i remember not liking the ride quality, thinking it was too bouncy or stiff at times, but over time it grew on me and i stopped noticing it. This would probably be the case with the Hayames.

Ocassionally, I would hear a rubber/squeaking noise as i went over a bump at low speeds. it's the exact same noise I had with my B+Gs, where the rubber dust boot was rubbing against the spring/strut body. On my B+Gs, i cut them off except for 1" near the top, since that's really the only area they need to protect. If you encounter this noise, I advise you do the same.

on my rear struts, the 3rd locknuts (very top of the strut body) were slightly loose.. i was able to tighten them a bit more to ensure i'd get no weird noses.

Over all, the Hayames are an AWESOME deal. they handle very well for $650 and give you a great drop. If you ever wanna go off roading, they raise higher than stock, too

My B+Gs only offer more luxury to the ride handling, which because it's grown on me, i don't want to sacrifice.

With this said, I will be selling my hayames to any local buyer in the Northern VA area region for 650, installed.

 
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damn mex i was just gon ask u if u liked the hayame better than B&G and i was gon get hayame but now im keepin my B&G.....
riley

 
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Civic: HAY10.71.17
RSX: HAY10.71.04

Okay... now this is interesting... but what are those #s really for? I would guess they are the model of spring. But yeah, I'd like to know what other people's springs say if you guys don't mind taking off your wheels and spinning the spring around.

I dunno if you've noticed but when I got my Hayames, on the collar there were some embossed #s on the "Hayame" label. I'm gonna try to get that # if it means something.

I swear, if I RAISED my car an inch from where it is now, I'd literally be at stock height.

Oh yeah, and just for validation, this is the picture I posted of my rear springs a while ago on this thread (note, that's when I had tried raising it to stock height):




On the other hand, your pic looks like yours is quite low with little preload... and it is.

 
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Check your torques. Something might've settled.

 
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I don't have any label on my collars. There's another difference.

are you certain the rear struts are dropped ALL the way? did you install them with them down, or install them then drop them?

 
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blah, i think i'm going to have to take off my steelies.. i cant see the numbers... i'll check later..

didnt someone post something saying those numbers on the springs mean something?

 
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I ended up installing the rears three times already. The 2nd time was due to forgetting that rubber piece over the uppermounts.

The third time was due to twisting the shock all the way down in the collar (to lower) to the point where I did it so tight I couldn't adjust the height back up. i had to take the rears off and loosen the collar off manually (I don't want to ever do that again.)

Every time I've installed the rears, the strut was ALWAYS beyond that hole in the collar. In fact, the only way I was able to get it on was when it was nearly set to it's lowest point. What's up with that?

 
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okay i just got mine safe and sound... the neigbor signed for them? hmm n e way.. my spring #s are same as mex's
now, this is odd.

MY rear springs: 0530.2.50.010

MY front springs: 0700.2.50.008


the box says HAY10.71.17

can anyone else with Hayames post their rear spring #?
better check with hayame on this one.

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those are exactly th way mine are... slammed it sounds like u may have got the wrong springs for the back...

rear on mine: 0530.2.50.010
front on mine: 0700.2.50.008

hope that helps o ya mex, what size tires and rims u got on there???

 
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205/45's on 17s

 
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Hard to say I have the wrong springs. You guys have the same springs the RSX guys have, although I'm one of few people with the height issue, there could be a possibility the RSX guys have the wrong springs, too.

But either way, the springs are the same dimension between the Civic and RSX (as per Urban Import).

 
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Ya but just because the spring dimensions are the same doesnt mean the spring rates are... say two springs are the same length but have different spring lengths... softer spring rate is obviously going to drop lower than a higher spring rate...

 
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Just a quick question in terms of adjustment before or after installation:

I want to drop my ride height about 1.5" all around, so should I install my new Hayames like they are just out of the box, or adjust them down before installation (how much)? What way would be easier?

I would also like to keep as much preload as possible of course.

I am riding on 215/40/17's & looking for about 2" gap between tire & fender. Any advise would be just super. Thanks Guys.

 
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I'm curious as well