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Old Mar 26, 2004
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Originally posted by ELaudio
I'm sure that as soon as Hayame gets the springs, you'll get them slammedblueEM2.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
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So slammed, are you sure that you have the wrong rear springs #62.135.010? But cdub604 has the same ones & I think he is saying that they are good?

I have the #0530.2.50.010 but not installed yet, are these wrong & should I not put them on yet?
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Originally posted by Canadian2k1SI
So slammed, are you sure that you have the wrong rear springs #62.135.010? But cdub604 has the same ones & I think he is saying that they are good?

I have the #0530.2.50.010 but not installed yet, are these wrong & should I not put them on yet?
Go ahead and put them on. Everyone who had the coilovers with those #s were good.

cdub604 has the same springs as I do? If that's the case, then the issue is NOT the springs, just as I thought in the beginning. The RSX and Civic springs in the rear are the same height. If I have RSX SPRINGS then the car is not going to be as high as everyone else's just because it's 2kg stiffer ALONE because the difference between my car and everyone else's is absolutely HUGE. That's like saying the springs have to compress a full 3 inches due to my car's weight since it's not an RSX since it won't go any lower.

I totally don't understand why this is the case. If I go lower without any preload the struts will bottom out. Not to mention the handling sucks.
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Old Mar 26, 2004
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I'm so confused with everything going on. Peeps got some issues with Hayame's . That sucks, but sounds manageable.
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OK, thanks man.

I will install them as soon as I get the time.
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Hey Mike,

I am going to call you at Urban Import and order a set of Hayame's. I know of the problems. And I just want the correct ones. if you can guarantee that i will gladly fork over 650 big ones just for you. Thanks alot.

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Originally posted by Chicohonda02
I'm so confused with everything going on. Peeps got some issues with Hayame's . That sucks, but sounds manageable.
Overview (as acurate as my memory serves me):

1. VNlilMaN got Hayame's and made a review about them.
2. Everyone liked his review and people started ordering.
3. More people approved.
4. Some people didn't know how to adjust them.
5. One person said he couldn't go any lower.
6. Adjustment was explained.
7. More people ordered them.
8. Some people didn't know how to adjust them.
9. Adjustment was explained again.
10. I got my hands on them and made a review about them.
11. Some people didn't know how to adjust them.
12. I couldn't go much lower than stock height and posted lots of pictures.
13. Adjustment was explained yet AGAIN.
14. People examine the difference in their Hayames from different spring #s in the rear to not having a Hayame sticker on the lower sleeve on the rears.
15. DIY for adjusting Hayames was made by VNlilMaN
16. UrbanImport is out of stock of Hayames but offers to replace those who are having issues with their rears as soon as Hayame gets more from the manufacturer.
17. This thread begins to attract a lot more attention.
18. Regardless, some people get skeptical of the Hayames (owners, soon-to-be owners, buyers looking for a good deal on full-coilovers).
19. While some customers are quite satisfied with their drop results.
20. People wait on getting their answers from UrbanImport about what exactly is wrong. (YOU ARE HERE.)
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Old Mar 27, 2004
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LOL.. damn homie... either you were extremely bored or have a good memory...

To me it just seems as if a few got wrong rear springs.
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Well put, Slammed!

Honestly, I don't understand why so many people were so confused about adjusting these damned things. It's completely clear to me!
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Originally posted by ELaudio
Well put, Slammed!

Honestly, I don't understand why so many people were so confused about adjusting these damned things. It's completely clear to me!
i know !! that ajusting Q have been asked at least 10 times !!!

but i m still confused which is the right part # for the rear spring tho.
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.......... ok ...

canadian2k1 si you have the correct spring #s.... lets straighten this once and for all...

everyone with me here:

MY rear springs: 0530.2.50.010

MY front springs: 0700.2.50.008

those #s are the same as mexs, vnlilman, some other dudes and mine these ppl all seen to have good drop in rear so it appears these are the correct #s no one w those #s has problem

slammedblue has different rear spring #s his are 62.135.010 and he appaears to have issues

all the people with same #s as slammedblue seem to have height issues so obiously:

rear springs: 0530.2.50.010 = G O O D NO HEIGHT ISSUES

front springs: 0700.2.50.008

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rear springs: 62.135.010 = BAD " HEIGHT ISSUES "

front springs: 0700.2.50.008

... there now no one can be confused


and i must say these are some pimp coilovers, they handle exactly the same as my buddys teins but half the price....


that being said i am trading in my car for rsx type s very soon and i am going to sell my coilovers if anyone wants em no wait to get them, no backorder send me a pm or post if your interested only been installed less than a week or so you can check my ride for pics w them on and the bolt size is correct for 03 and up AND THERE THE CORRECT ONES.......... pimpin
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o ya sorry for double post but this is what they look like : stock rims: boo

http://www.7thgencivic.com/memberrid...cat=500&page=1
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Thanks for clarifying that up, it was a bit confusing but now we should get it.
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eh just a correction, my rear springs didnt have any numbers on them. atleast i didnt see them, i thought i did when i got them but i checked but didnt see anything
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i duno but my hayame rides like ****..wen hit bump it hits hard.
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The thing is that you guys with working Hayames use the same springs as the RSX Hayame's... and I wonder why.
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Old Mar 28, 2004
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Didnt some rsx people complain that even with it raised all the way up, their tires were tucking? Maybe they share the same parts as them
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I installed mine yesterday. Well, only the front ones. On the passenger side, the bolt that holds onto the bottom of the strut was totally freaking seized. Because of its placement, I couldn't get my impact gun in there - but I'm going to grab a universal joint adapter to make it fit. Hopefully I'll have it all on by tonight...
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Old Mar 28, 2004
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Originally posted by VNlilMAN
Didnt some rsx people complain that even with it raised all the way up, their tires were tucking?
INDEED.

But more specifically, they were about to tuck WITH preload. If they took a little preload off, their rears would completely tuck. If they added more preload to raise the car, the ride would be harsh and uncomfortable.
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alright question..imma bring the 2 locknuts all the way down wat should i do with the 3rd one..i want preload and lower it..which way should i turn the 3rd nut
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Originally posted by Dainfamous
alright question..imma bring the 2 locknuts all the way down wat should i do with the 3rd one..i want preload and lower it..which way should i turn the 3rd nut
You still don't get it?

First of all you are not supposed to bring the top two all the way down. Doing that kills all preload thus the spring will be loose and your ride will be shitty.

Let's give you a good start on what to do and

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The first thing you want to do is make sure the VERY BOTTOM lock nut is tightened and can NOT move.

1. The first locking nut (at the very top) that sits on the spring. Move it up to the point where the spring does NOT move up and down. By moving this one further up you're adjusting preload. For now, just make sure the spring is stable.

2. The second locking nut (right in between of the three). Move it right under lock nut #1. Use BOTH wrenches to tighten these two together (#1 should be turning left and #2 should be turning right).

From this point, you can use the second locknut to also adjust the preload if desired.

3. The third locking nut (at the very bottom.) To adjust the height, the top two must FIRST be tightened. Turn the third one (using one wrench) to the RIGHT moving it upward on the shock. Now you can adjust the height. To do this, take one wrench to locking nut #1 and turn left. You should be able to turn the strut into the lower collar to LOWER the ride height.

If you want to go up, take the same wrench to one of the upper locking nuts and turn right., moving the strut upwards.

When you are done adjusting the height, tighten the third locking nut by turning it left all the way down to the collar. Make sure it's tight - ESPECIALLY in the front.

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If you find that you cannot turn the strut with the locking nuts and end up turning the locking nuts alone (which in turn adjusts the preload), try turning the spring with your hands to turn the strut. If you end up going all the way into the lower collar, and cannot adjust the height up or down - that means you've gone too far down. You'll have to take the strut off the car and loosen it.

Overview:

If you want pre-load, spin the top locking nut while the bottom one is tight, or you'll adjust the height.

If you want to adjust the height, make sure the bottom one is loose, or you'll adjust the preload.

Always set the second one under the first.

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SlammedBlueEM2 - You have a **** load of patience with people's questions about adjusting the Hayames. I would've probably given up - I value your perseverence!

Adjusting the preload and ride height is NOT rocket science. Neither is it splittling the atom or even doing an engine swap.

Three lock-nuts, one threaded tube - who would have thought this combination could cause so much confusion!
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wat is a preload again..and i tried wat u told me to do..wen i move the 2 near the spring the whole strut moves
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the WHOLE STRUT is SUPPOSED to move. Thats how you shorten/extend the shock in order to lower/raise the car
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Originally posted by ELaudio
SlammedBlueEM2 - You have a **** load of patience with people's questions about adjusting the Hayames. I would've probably given up - I value your perseverence!
Thanks. Impatient people get nothing - if only I could apply that to my driving habits.

Not to mention, if people don't ask questions, they have an even lesser chance of getting what they want. The smartest people ask the most questions, but I guess that gaining intelligence also depends on what form the answer is presented for the receiver.

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wat is a preload again..and i tried wat u told me to do..wen i move the 2 near the spring the whole strut moves
Congratulations.

You've just learned how to adjust the height of your car.

PRELOAD. It's when you compress something, and in this instance it will be the spring. More compression of your springs = firmer ride. Technically what happens is your springs will compress (load) less when driving after preloading them. The more you move locking nut #1 up, the more you add preload to the spring.

If your car was riding like ****, then it was probably because you did not add any preload.

More importantly, you won't need to add more than an inch of preload to a spring.

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Originally posted by VNlilMAN
the WHOLE STRUT is SUPPOSED to move. Thats how you shorten/extend the shock in order to lower/raise the car
Yes, what he means is the height adjustability does not lie in the height of the spring but the height of the strut (from the bottom collar). The lower it goes into the collar, the lower the height. The higher it is, the higher the height.

I think a lot of people misunderstand when they are told that the 3rd locking nut "adjusts" the height. Unlike locking nuts 1 & 2, the 3rd one does not actually "adjust" anything. When you move it, it's either sealing the ride height when it's locked at the bottom OR when it's loose it ALLOWS you to move the strut with 1 & 2 or your hand holding the spring.
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OMG, I cant believe I just read this whole thread....I started last night after I got home and think I killed one of my shocks thanks to NYC's lovely roads.

Got through 25 pages last night, and just finished the next 17 today. Decided to work from home today and it's now 2:10 and I havent done squat, cause I've been reading this thread...LOL.

I'm interested in getting these (after the whole spring issue gets resolved), so I have 2 questions:

Mike: Do you have new sets in stock or when will you be getting them in?

To All: Is there someone in the NYC/NJ/CT area that would be able to help me install these since I dunno jack.
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Originally posted by DaCurryman
OMG, I cant believe I just read this whole thread....I started last night after I got home and think I killed one of my shocks thanks to NYC's lovely roads.

Got through 25 pages last night, and just finished the next 17 today. Decided to work from home today and it's now 2:10 and I havent done squat, cause I've been reading this thread...LOL.

I'm interested in getting these (after the whole spring issue gets resolved), so I have 2 questions:

Mike: Do you have new sets in stock or when will you be getting them in?

To All: Is there someone in the NYC/NJ/CT area that would be able to help me install these since I dunno jack.
i am almost positive they are still on back order....

And a local shop should be able to intsall them for like 100 bucks if u can not find anyone..and that way you would get a labor warranty
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so lower the strut go into the lower coller the lower the car is..correct? u can tell by lookin into that lil hole
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yup... and for the front you can tell by looking underneath the bottom housing
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