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Old Feb 12, 2004
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so if i preload the springs so that they barely move up and down and turning them..it will have the best ride?..and maybe get rid of the poping sound im getting?
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eh for ME i liked it best that way. different people like different settings. As for popping, i'm tellin you its mainly the 3rd locknut thats not tight enough but yes taking off some preload seemed to have put less stress on the 3rd locknut which thus reduces the noise.
are you coming to the eagle rock meet on the 21st? you can ride and my car and see if you like it at my current setting.
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just installed my hayame's and i have a couple of questions. is it everyone's case that the smaller brake line bracket does not reach the back mounting point of the hayame front strut. also, i read boilermaker1's JIC DIY and he mentioned the offset bushing on the rear lower mount which i don't think applies to the hayame's, correct? hopfully that's not the case because i don't want to redo the rears.
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only minor little thing was they didnt include a nut for the brake like(since its attached to the stock strut). All i did was use zip ties.
My badd, i meant nut. The nut was welded onto the stock strut and hayame didnt include one. that was the only minor set back. wasnt really a big deal and didnt feel like going to the store just for 2 nuts so ya i just used zip ties
they talk about it on the last page. At least that is what I think you are talking about.
http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...&pagenumber=13
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also, i read boilermaker1's JIC DIY and he mentioned the offset bushing on the rear lower mount which i don't think applies to the hayame's, correct?
Looking at the pics posted in this thread, It looks like the bushing is centered. So that probably doesn't apply. It it was offset, the coilover would have only gone in 1 way, if you tried to put it in backwards it would hit the A arm before the bushing lined up.
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Originally posted by VNlilMAN
eh for ME i liked it best that way. different people like different settings. As for popping, i'm tellin you its mainly the 3rd locknut thats not tight enough but yes taking off some preload seemed to have put less stress on the 3rd locknut which thus reduces the noise.
are you coming to the eagle rock meet on the 21st? you can ride and my car and see if you like it at my current setting.
Ok thanks..i cant goto the meet i have a mandatory "field trip" to goto for my astronomy classs
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I thought tokico didnt have struts out for our carm, but these aparently have struts manufactured by tokico. WTF
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Originally posted by streetglower
I thought tokico didnt have struts out for our carm, but these aparently have struts manufactured by tokico. WTF
I think this has been discussed but full coilovers aren't just a strut with coilover sleeves thrown on them, they are custom made strut inserts.
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Are these coilovers really worth it...How do they compare to the TEIN SS. I'm getting pissed at myself cuz i can't decide which coilovers to get. TEIN SS because they are a great quality but they only go down 1.3 inches. Hayames good cuz they go really low...Bad cuz I haven't heard to much about them... what do yall think i should do.
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Originally posted by UrbanImport
I think this has been discussed but full coilovers aren't just a strut with coilover sleeves thrown on them, they are custom made strut inserts.
I know that, what I was saying was in the ebay item for hayame coilovers it says the struts are manufactured by tokico, but tokico doesnt have stuts out for our car yet. So wtf?
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Originally posted by streetglower
I know that, what I was saying was in the ebay item for hayame coilovers it says the struts are manufactured by tokico, but tokico doesnt have stuts out for our car yet. So wtf?
I'm not sure how else to explain it. They are not 01 Civic struts with coilover sleeves over them. They are custom inserts.
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Originally posted by aznsensation18
Are these coilovers really worth it...How do they compare to the TEIN SS. I'm getting pissed at myself cuz i can't decide which coilovers to get. TEIN SS because they are a great quality but they only go down 1.3 inches. Hayames good cuz they go really low...Bad cuz I haven't heard to much about them... what do yall think i should do.
Really depends on what you are looking for. The Teins have long proven themselves to be a well performing setup. If you are mainly just looking for a drop with nice ride I think the Hayames are a better value without a doubt.
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Originally posted by streetglower
I know that, what I was saying was in the ebay item for hayame coilovers it says the struts are manufactured by tokico, but tokico doesnt have stuts out for our car yet. So wtf?
Basically the shocks are made by tokico but hayame fabricated the housing... but ya as mike(urbanimport) explained, these sleeves over 7thgen tokico shocks(because they arent out yet) but rather the whole thing is custom except for the shock interals(what really matters when it comes to shocks).
think of it this way... you know how koni inserts work, they are koni shocks but they use oem housing. well hayames use tokico shocks with hayame housings.


as for tein ss vs hayame... well its hard to compare the two. one has adjustable damper, one doesnt. that is one major difference when it comes to ride quality. you can change the soft/stiffness to a certain extent with the hayames but you cant change it as you would with teins. but then you also pay what a $500 pricetag for the adjustable damper so you decide if its worth it or not.
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Old Feb 17, 2004
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I have had the Tein SS for about a year, and I think they are crap... my ride sucks, its just horrible, I hate driving my car.... I think i'm gunna have to ditch the Tein's and go with these hayam's because my suspension is fuct. It was fine when I first installed them, but I guess they blew or something, cheaply made perhaps, but anyways, I want something that lasts, so hopefully these hayme's will take the abuse of the crappy roads around here....
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What made me choose the Hayame over the SS was simply how the strut extends when choosing the height you want so shock travel isn't compromised. Not to mention how low it'll go. Tokico has a great reputation for their shocks. Koni Yellows alone are $50 cheaper than Hayame.

I don't see what the big deal about adjusting the damper is all about unless you truly are going to race your car. If not, are people gonna pay an extra $500 to adjust the shocks more than 2-3 times a year after finding the ride comfort they're used to? IMO, it sounds like people just want to have it just because everyone says it's a good feature to have for racing, which it is. If comfort is an issue, at least the option is open for adjusting the preload which doesn't seem to be good enough for everyone.

I vote Hayame > Tein SS.

My friend has the SS, and I'm definitely going to compare how his car rides to mine once mine are installed.
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What rear camber kit did you guys buy to go with this set? I just purcahsed a set and now i want to get the rear camber kit to go with it. Anyone recommend a brand or a part # to adjust the rear camber?
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spc, looks stronger than the ingalls. either one is fine tho.
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SlammedBlueEM2 thanks for the review your sorta of changing my mind about the SS. But when you get the Hayames and ride your boys car let me know because i cant ****ing decide which ones to get. I just want to know who on this site has had the Hayames the longest and do you have any problems?
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Originally posted by VNlilMAN
spc, looks stronger than the ingalls. either one is fine tho.
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Ive actually heard Ingalls is the stronger of the two. But yea, youll be fine either way.
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Originally posted by matrix311
What rear camber kit did you guys buy to go with this set? I just purcahsed a set and now i want to get the rear camber kit to go with it. Anyone recommend a brand or a part # to adjust the rear camber?





I have SPC and it does its job just fine.
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No one has pics of them on the car yet?
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Thanks for the great info, I have just ordered mine, can't wait. Gonna get some chasis stiffening stuff too,what do you think guys, Neuspeed all the way round?
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Originally posted by Canadian2k1SI
Thanks for the great info, I have just ordered mine, can't wait. Gonna get some chasis stiffening stuff too,what do you think guys, Neuspeed all the way round?
I vouch for at least their front upper strut bar or X-brace. They need to make a rear upper strut bar.
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alright im about to order them right now, one last thing tho has anyone had n e bad experiences w these? ive read all the posts, and ive had old civics and integras the last one had h and r race springs that i cut 2 coils out of so it was real low and i still thought the ride was not "ahhhh its bumpy..." i would expect the ride to be similar to my buddys 98 hatch with h and r race springs and konis correct? if so then im all good... ?
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Anyone know the details of putting in the Hayame coilovers for the RSX. I want stiffer spring rates. I just need to know what I would need to modify... Tie rod? What, shorter or longer? What about the rear again? ???
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the rear you have to shave off a mm or two off of the lower bracket.
front, all you need is rsx tie rods(to get a proper alignment). also depending on the size of the 2 bolts on the lower bracket, you might have to work something out for that.. boiler and robb should know the specifics tho, he installed rsx jics on his car
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Originally posted by Canadian2k1SI
Thanks for the great info, I have just ordered mine, can't wait. Gonna get some chasis stiffening stuff too,what do you think guys, Neuspeed all the way round?
neuspeed up front and i am gonna go with a cusco in the rear
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my car still lop sided
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