filipinop1405

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that makes me think of your gatorade bottle and with the coolant and now fosho's car thinks that his coolant is gatorade....his car's in it to win it!

filipinop1405

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that makes me think of your gatorade bottle and with the coolant and now fosho's car thinks that his coolant is gatorade....his car's in it to win it!

emjay

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^^ double post FTW

emjay

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^^ double post FTW

speedfoos

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So I'm fighting my car again. Started it up in preps for tomorrow's inspection and it started idling really high (about 2K) and crappy.

Then it threw a CEL - P0505 Idle Control System - which is caused by a vacuum leak. OK cool, I can handle this. I had used nylon 1/2" NPT barb fittings on the back of the IM, so I switch them out to 1/2" NPT/-6AN °90 fittings, made a couple -6AN lines and replaced them. I rechecked all my vac lines, removed and tightened the TB, cinched down the IM a little more - should have been good.

Started her up, no codes, idling fine at fast idle (about 1100 RPMs). I let her go a little bit and then blipped the throttle to let it kick down. She kicks down to about 800 and then right back up to 2K RPMs and stays there again. Idling fine, just really high, and no codes.

I have no ****ing idea what's wrong.

filipinop1405

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damn bro can't believe that shyts happening

FoSho

Try Idle relearn? My car did the exact same thing, shot right up to 2k. I did Idle relearn and it stopped. Just an idea?

speedfoos

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Yeah, gonna try it this morning Avery. Was just beat and frustrated last night.

civicsrcool

just a suggestion, might sound too straightforward... check the PCV valve connection from the intake manifold and the block as well. i heard a bad/clogged pcv can cause idling problems. oil catch cans can prevent this from happening.

speedfoos

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PCV was removed and a brass nipple put in its place. Intake manifold is not stock. I have an oil catch can. Thanks though.

Still ****ing idling high for no ****ing reason. Runs great although my clutch is slipping now and she breaks loose in third at about 9 psi. That's not a problem, that's a horsepower side effect.

I'm going back to the inspection place (was busy, had to come back) and once the car cools down, I'm going to pull the intake mani off, put the stock one back on and see what it does.

FoSho

hmmm...Well it may very well be the intake manifold. You are putting alot more air down her throat. Maybe it's the piggyback fighting w/ the stock ecu. We have speed density...so I'm sure all those stock sensors are freakin out. Has anyone else installed a JDMfabtech w/ a piggyback?

speedfoos

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Good guess Avery, I thought the same thing, but that wasn't it. I pulled the JDM IM off and put the stocker back on. While it wasn't as bad, the idle is still ****ed, still throwing a P0505, and generally unpleasant. I have a sneaky feeling I didn't get away as cleanly as I thought when that timing tensioner slipped.

lordhelmet

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IAC Valve?

speedfoos

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No, don't think so.

I swapped back to the stock IM, and after remembering to loop my BOV and EVAP vac lines on the block (they were extra when switching to the stock IM), I was able to get a decent (for my piggyback) idle at about 800 RPMs. This was a good sign.

I'm sitting in the car now after re-installing the JDMFIM (jdmfabtech intake manifold) and I've got a decent idle again. I was able to cinch the FIM down to the injector plate outside of the vehicle this time and get it installed and things seem to behaving.

At 800 RPMs I'm getting about 15.1 AFR with a 2-3% positive ST fuel trim correction which is pretty good. AFRs are a little flaky, but the idle is stable and low without dying. This is very good.

dopes6070

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awesome glad your working out the kinks!

filipinop1405

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things look like they are going up for you bro!!

speedfoos

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Buh bye.

Wolfgang5884

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I see you are given your baby a nose job, sweet stuff. Are the junk yards around here reasonable about their prices?

speedfoos

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Buh bye.

sql_civic

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That rear main is a pain. It's not a bad job to change but hard to get to.

Did your clutch get oil soaked?

speedfoos

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I think the ends of it got a little bit on them Carl. I doused the clutch in acetone and scrubbed it, so it's as good as its going to get. She's slipping under full boost anyway because it's not strong enough so it's not that big of a deal if it did get contaminated since I need a new one. Hope that bracket gets here soon, my alternator bolt was almost all the way backed out!

filipinop1405

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hey clint they got the ep3 steering wheel out there... i can't find a damn junk yard out here for shyt... but at the same time i'm not looking that hard right now, with the wedding and all coming up.

02fpcivic

Did you lube that rear main seal before you put it on the crank? Make sure there is plenty of oil on it before you install it. The initial start will often kill a dry seal. You probably already know this but I figure I'd toss it out there incase others need to change out any seals.

BTW I have piggybacked all kinds of different manifolds and never had one CEL. The only way one would cause idle problems is if it were broken somewhere.

speedfoos

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Yeah Gerry, it had a vac leak that I found and fixed, so it's good. Good looking out on the rear main, but Honda actually lubes them from the factory! Surprised me when I took it out of the package that there was already a nice little bead of grease around the inside of the seal.

I'll look Jay and see what I can find. They do wreck them all the time. Once I find one, I'll get you a price.

FoSho

Ya I know! I put some custom lube on it for you before it left Honda

speedfoos

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Thanks Avery it was delicious.

I think I figured out the actual cause of my problems though. MAP sensor just went **** up. Threw a P0107 yesterday while I was adjusting the idle of the JDMFIM and died. I thought it was just a random code associated with my piggyback. Well......when I can get the car started it runs like absolute ****. This kind of makes sense with all the idle/vac/pressure issues I've been having for the MAP sensor to going going gone. Gonna pick one up tomorrow and see if that works.

Car is back together though so that's at least something.

02fpcivic

Yeah most companies lube them. I still put oil on them anyway. I cant stand doing things like that twice, hehe.

FoSho

What map sensor you running? Hondata has a plug & plag 4 bar but it's $140 bucks!!

speedfoos

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It will work with the stock ECU until I get kpro though? If so, I'll buy it since I will need it anyway.

I hear you Gerry. Like Carl said, replacing the seal is a piece of cake, getting to it is a real sonofabitch!

FoSho

Dunno about it working without kpro. Says nothing about it's compatability. Maybe sniper scout can find it for me, lol. Here's the link

http://www.hondata.com/4barmap.html

Ours looks like the k series map sensor.