UPDATE: Dual-groove pulley INSTALLED!!!
Originally posted by bobbyd
haha, You would think the majority would liek to know when they are getting or goign to be getting f*cked over. That is why I posted what I did.
So, calm yourself.
haha, You would think the majority would liek to know when they are getting or goign to be getting f*cked over. That is why I posted what I did.
So, calm yourself.
Again, everything you mention we have heard a million times. Alot of ppls did get the pulley and one member already put it on with no problem. So i woulden't say we're getting fu*k over yet.
Last edited by Yoyoio; Apr 15, 2004 at 04:42 PM.
Originally posted by HustleLikeM0FO
The guy who started this thread had to get the pulley taken off because it was making weird noises I believe and his sensor got damaged. Correct me if I'm wrong
The guy who started this thread had to get the pulley taken off because it was making weird noises I believe and his sensor got damaged. Correct me if I'm wrong
Now, hopefully cdmx will get his installed.
Re: UPDATE: Dual-groove pulley INSTALLED!!!
Originally posted by SLeePeRCIVICHopeful
hey!!! okay i got my dual-groove pulley on monday and had it installed today...after about 7 hours of having it in the shop (yeah i was really surprised it took that long)...they finally finished!! Unfortunately i wasn't able to get the measurements of the new belts needed...i will try to go back there tomorrow and find out for my fellow 7thgeners...okay now the air conditioner losing power issue is almost non-existent...the a/c works about the same as before...i did feel that the power steering got a little weaker...but its not too noticeable...and finally the gains...according the my "butt dyno" my car seems to pull alot more....but you all know how accurate those dynoes are...so just to see if any gains were actually made or if it was just me i'll be taking my car to the track next saturday!!!
From what i've felt so far...this pulley seems to be living up to its expectations!! great work dh-racing!!! 
hey!!! okay i got my dual-groove pulley on monday and had it installed today...after about 7 hours of having it in the shop (yeah i was really surprised it took that long)...they finally finished!! Unfortunately i wasn't able to get the measurements of the new belts needed...i will try to go back there tomorrow and find out for my fellow 7thgeners...okay now the air conditioner losing power issue is almost non-existent...the a/c works about the same as before...i did feel that the power steering got a little weaker...but its not too noticeable...and finally the gains...according the my "butt dyno" my car seems to pull alot more....but you all know how accurate those dynoes are...so just to see if any gains were actually made or if it was just me i'll be taking my car to the track next saturday!!!
From what i've felt so far...this pulley seems to be living up to its expectations!! great work dh-racing!!! someone keep trying to call him and ask for the spacer. He did mention they were sent out on March 22. Post 36
again, Josh did mention the spacer is not a must
Last edited by Yoyoio; Apr 15, 2004 at 05:31 PM.
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The pulley CAN NOT be installed without the spacer. i know this for a fact. I tried to install my pulley myself. when you put the bolt through the pulley and go to tighten it up, it pulls the pulley in until it hits the sensor. we tried just tightening it enough to where it wouldnt hit the sensor but that barely had any torque on the bolt. my original plan was to space it out with some washers from a hardware store. the same day i came on here and saw that josh was gonna be making spacers. so i didnt try. maybe i'll try that out this weekend.
Originally posted by Yoyoio
ya ok, whatever you mention above have been gone thur already. Letz try to stick to the topic again. Shell we?
CDMX hopefully we'll get some good new from you. Josh did mention we don't NEED the spacer for sure, and one member already installed the pulley without the spacer. So Go figure
ya ok, whatever you mention above have been gone thur already. Letz try to stick to the topic again. Shell we?
CDMX hopefully we'll get some good new from you. Josh did mention we don't NEED the spacer for sure, and one member already installed the pulley without the spacer. So Go figure
we do not have race cars we cant just leave the timing case open, do you know how much **** would get in there...
DO not install this thing without the spacer....Im about to file a complaint with the BBB
[EDIT] i was on the phone with him and yea, trying to tell me that i need to do this and i need to do that[edit]
****ing ******* the ****er hung up on me you ****ing *** hole josh
Last edited by cdmx; Apr 15, 2004 at 08:08 PM.
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Wow. You guys don't stress out too much about this. It's gonna be alright. Worst case is you're out $180 or less. One way or another this will get worked out and DH will either stay or go. I guess that's what we get for jumping on the bandwagon.
look, im very frustated and to hear ppl say the spacer is not a must.......
get it through your heads the freakin thing will NOT go on without alot of modification!!!! IE cutting the damn timing case...
(the dumbass on the phone said i would need to cut it anway, im like wtf what woudl you need to cut it for?? then CLICK he hangs up)
the only reason i might cut mine is cause my car is all apart and i dont want to have to just throw on the old rvm pulley back on
get it through your heads the freakin thing will NOT go on without alot of modification!!!! IE cutting the damn timing case...
(the dumbass on the phone said i would need to cut it anway, im like wtf what woudl you need to cut it for?? then CLICK he hangs up)
the only reason i might cut mine is cause my car is all apart and i dont want to have to just throw on the old rvm pulley back on
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Rep Power: 811 Why didn't we listen to these guys in the first place? I know I should have, but at least I've found out the hard way.
Well I just tried to hav my mechanic to put my pulley on yesterday but he wouldnt do it. He said it was a drag pulley and that it is not appropriate for normal everyday driving. He said it would weaken the alternator and most likely due damage to the engine. Also he said there was no keyway which there shouldve been.
My mechanic has alot of experience with cars, right now he has 6 various racecars in his shop. I trust him and im going to listen to him and not hav the pulley installed. Im going to talk to josh about sending my pulley back and getting my money back.
My mechanic has alot of experience with cars, right now he has 6 various racecars in his shop. I trust him and im going to listen to him and not hav the pulley installed. Im going to talk to josh about sending my pulley back and getting my money back.
If properly designed, a pulley with a keyway can operate with NO vibration. If the key inserted in the keyway is the right size and mass, then it will offset the keyway itself. Bottom line is, on our engines the vibration caused by a keway'd pulley would be negligible.
Keyways serve two purposes;
1) To prevent slippage
2) The key is designed to shear under high stress, before the pulley does (this is the main purpose). So, if the pulley is under exterme stress, the key in effect protects the pulley by preventing it from cracking all over.
A no Keyway pulley CAN in fact vibrate. It can vibrate a lot. In fact, every pulley, no matter how well balanced will vibrate to some degree. There is no such thing as perfect balancing. I'm sure DH Racing's pulley is extremely well balanced, though.
Keyways serve two purposes;
1) To prevent slippage
2) The key is designed to shear under high stress, before the pulley does (this is the main purpose). So, if the pulley is under exterme stress, the key in effect protects the pulley by preventing it from cracking all over.
A no Keyway pulley CAN in fact vibrate. It can vibrate a lot. In fact, every pulley, no matter how well balanced will vibrate to some degree. There is no such thing as perfect balancing. I'm sure DH Racing's pulley is extremely well balanced, though.
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I cut the timing case
and guess what guys....oh this is gonna be good
cmon guess
THE ****ING GODDAMN ****ING PIECE OF **** **** SUCKING PULLEY DONT FIT, IT DOESN'T FIT....IT DOESN'T FIT AROUND THE CRANK
I cut the timing case
and guess what guys....oh this is gonna be good
cmon guess
THE ****ING GODDAMN ****ING PIECE OF **** **** SUCKING PULLEY DONT FIT, IT DOESN'T FIT....IT DOESN'T FIT AROUND THE CRANK
i cannt belive it doesn't fit....
oh yea...and my comments are only cause im pissed off and in no way reflects my opinions on how DH-racing conducts business..
I recieved a defective product
oh yea...and my comments are only cause im pissed off and in no way reflects my opinions on how DH-racing conducts business..
I recieved a defective product
Last edited by cdmx; Apr 15, 2004 at 09:44 PM.
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Rep Power: 811 Hahahahaha. Cdmx you just made my night reading your post. I laughed so hard reading that. Not at you, but at this whole DH catastrophe. I'm at the point now where I just don't care. But it sucks that you cut the timing cover. You got pics of the defective pulley? lol. Sorry man, but I guess that's what happens when you design a pulley with no knowledge of what the D17 engine looks like 
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Rep Power: 607 Didn't someone else b4 try and install the pulley, but it didn't fit also ?????
BTW......i pm'ed gearbox about 1 1/2 months ago about DH Racing and he can tell you.......i was right. I showed him proof
BTW......i pm'ed gearbox about 1 1/2 months ago about DH Racing and he can tell you.......i was right. I showed him proof
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Rep Power: 811 Yeah, I was stupid back then. Anyone checked the for sale/trade forums? I've seen about 10 different threads saying FS: DH-dual groove pulley! Someone went as low as $50 shipped with no takers. What a bunch of idiots we are.
I've got an appointment on Tuesday to get my DH head installed. The guy told me it was decent work at least. I may have him test fit the pulley. Then when it doesn't fit, I'll send it back to DH for a refund.
I've got an appointment on Tuesday to get my DH head installed. The guy told me it was decent work at least. I may have him test fit the pulley. Then when it doesn't fit, I'll send it back to DH for a refund.
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Rep Power: 607 Originally posted by C2i0v0i1C
well as we can tell from DHRACINGJOSH custom user title, we find HIS ASSSSSS IS SUSPENDED!!!!!
OWNED ONCE AND FOR ALL
well as we can tell from DHRACINGJOSH custom user title, we find HIS ASSSSSS IS SUSPENDED!!!!!
OWNED ONCE AND FOR ALL
