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I have been following this sad (actually shocking) story since DH first offered the pulley claiming (quite falsely) that it would add 20 HP. I too almost took the bait and bought into the group buy. So convincing were Josh's representations about the product and his company. As I recall, the appearance of an association or collaboration of some kind between DH and SF (or Catalyst) lent an air of legitimacy to DH's product advertising.

Anyway, it looks to me now like a large number of members may have been duped -- the victims of false advertising. In California (where I went to UCLA Law School, JD '82), I believe there are very stiff penalties for false advertising. Indeed, I believe a strong case of fraud can be made out based on Josh's material. false representations about the pulley, in addition to breach of warranty claims. Fraud is much more serious, as it allows recovery of punitive damages and attorney's fees. There is also the possibility of criminal prosecution.

If in fact the pulley was marketed as one designed specifically for the 7th gen civic, and DH never actually checked to be sure it would fit, I would make an inquiry with the district attorney's office where DH was located in Cal, or the Cal state attorney general's office, and speak to someone in the consumer advocate's or criminal fraud division. There may even be someone in the internet fraud section of U.S. attorney's office that will be interested in looking into this matter. Even if DH's principals have moved to Las Vegas, if they are guilty of fraud they can and will be extradited (unless the feds decide to prosecute in which case they can run but they can't hide).

The main issue is whether the pulleys really do not fit. One or two members apparently were able to put it on. Maybe some of the product is simply defective in manufacture. But if all or the vast majority do not fit and it is also true they were made without any test fitting on a 7th gen civic, again, I would approach this case as one of intentional fraud and pursue it as a criminal matter and also collectively prosecute civil claims for compensatory and punitive damages, court costs and attorneys fees.

I recommend that more buyers of the DH pulley take it to an experienced mechanic and at least try to put it on. Many said they would do so after receiving the spacers, and I still think they should. Quite frankly, I am absolutely dismayed at DH's failure to send the spacers out, as promised last month. It certainly behooves them to promptly correct an acknowledged defect, and also to demonstrate that it fits the 7th gen crankshaft.

Oh well, hope this advice is helpful. Good luck.

 
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Awhile ago Josh posted that the pulley's did not fit using the jig they had (this was back before anyone got the pulleys) Did you take all the pulley's and re-work them to make them all fit the jig (which would leave some room for error) or did you change the CNC program and scrap the pulleys that didn't fit the jig?

 
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I was just thinking that. Maybe I got one that was from the first batch. And nobody better tell me it's the mechanics fault. This guy is a pro. The company normally works on engines and does restoration work for classic cars. Installing the head is like a walk in the park for him. They normally do bigger jobs, but I conviced him to install the pulley and head. The pulley simply was not made for a 7thgen--at least not mine.

 
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Just measure it. CDMX. do you still have your's apart?

 
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Well if it was the first batch then i think i am in that, but then how has that one person installed it? i mean if they were all on a program or whatever how did he do it?

 
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That's not the point. EVERYONE should be able to install this with no problem, not 1 out of 5. Maybe other people might get it on, but others probably won't.

 
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I think that if you try it, and it doesn't fit...then you should get your money back. Other then that, you can't bitch and complain about it until you've tried it. I don't want mine anymore because I talked to a buddy of mine and said it's not safe in the long run. Other then that. I don't really expect my money back, unless it is faulty.

 
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And Josh keeps telling us that the spacer is not needed, but another guy said it keeps tightening until the pulley is pressing against the sensor. I guess that's also a defect then.

 
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so then why is it 1 out of 5? or whatever? what are they doing that is so special that are they getting it on?

 
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so then why is it 1 out of 5? or whatever? what are they doing that is so special that are they getting it on? one member said it rubbed against the sensor that is why when they looked they made the spacer for us. that is why most of us are waiting for it. i will try and get it on and i hope it works

 
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There is nothing special you can do if the pulley won't fit the crank. I just want my money back now. It's too much of a hassle, and I've spent tons of $$ on the ported head install parts already. I need that money instead of a paperweight.

 
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YES i wanted to put it on really BAD

but the thing does not fit

Would not go on even if i tried to force it....i bet i could get it on with a hammer.

 
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Yeah the guy at the shop said he didn't want to force mine on, either. Even if he did somehow, it wouldn't work properly and cause even more damage.

 
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i got you two a question, is the hole in the pulley too small? or too big? and how much difference is there? because there might still be a way to put it on..that's if ur willing to take the chance..but a lot of companies do this for perfect fit...the basically freeze one object (the crank) and heat up the pulley so it expands...then it put together..when it cools and warms up...the objects will shrink or expand back to the original size..causing it to be locked into place with friction

 
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ok then how did that one person get his on? this shouldnt be this big of a hassle correct, but maybe its just me but i wont give up , ill try it if it doesnt work ill send it back and expect a refund

 
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i believe that's what everyone is waiting on...the spacer so they can try it out...but that's what i'm wondering, if these parts were all made by the same program same designer...then how come some of them work and some don't? our engines are all build the same by machines...

 
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I have been waiting for my pully for a while on, and to tell you the truth I'm getting a little angry at Josh from DHracing. I paid the full amount and everything for that group buy a while ago. I think I'm gettin screwed

 
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Now*

 
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I have been waiting to see if others had my same problem. I took mine to a very reputable shop here and paind $75 dollars to install the pulley and watched them while they installed it and the pulley was too small aswell. They tried everything aswell to no luck.It would not fit onto the crank at all.

I expect a refund I paid $130 for a paperweight that I had so much hope for.

 
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Today was Sunday so no one got it in the mail.

Did they change any engine things from 01-03? Maybe that's why some people's don't fit? I dunno.

 
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Engine should be exactly the same. So that makes three of us now with pulleys that don't fit on.

 
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then why does one fit and the rest now what is the difference between them?

 
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just put mine on EBAY! score!

 
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I still havent recieved mine yet and its been almost 2 months.....................where is it Josh?

 
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Josh said the spacers will be arriving next week, or everyone gets a refund. Well I want my money back now, since the pulley I have doesn't work. The pullies were obviously made differently, since the engines are the same.

 
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something is up cause mootlif3 is the only one to my knowledge who actually has it installed and hasnt had a problem and its been on his car like a more then a month, how were they made differently though?

 
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Mine didn't fit either. We took all the stuff apart trying to get that piece of junk on and it wouldn't go. I went to the BBB and filled out the forms. Guess what...Im sure you will all be SOOO surprised. DH Racing already has a bad rep with the BBB, which means this probably has already happened before to some people just like us. If you bought the pulley and want your money back if it didn't fit go to www.bbb.com and file the forms. Takes 5 min. If Josh keeps ****ing us around, they will get the $ back for us. One more thing...Josh, why don't you try to answer our questions about the pulley not fitting instead of rambling on about an S2000 none of us care about? You have pretty much destoyed your own rep so just pay us back and leave us alone so we can end this expensive nightmare.

 
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Yea^^ we looked at their rep with BBB

its a couple pages back

 
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Prod says he will file a lawsuit if he doesn't get a refund monday. DH already got the motor back this weekend. He said that anyone else is free to join in if it happens. I would rather not, but I just want my money back on the defective pulley.

 
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this is seriously ridiculous...but either way, like ironfist said, it's sunday today...DH is probably not open...but ease up on josh a little bit..he's only doing what he's paid to do...and he has proven us worthy by actually delivering a pulley to us...some companies that try to **** people over won't even bother sending the fu/king thing out...so be glad that you have a $135 paperweight....at least u have proof when it comes down to the lawsuit....

Josh if ur reading this, i strongly suggest you start living up to your word...a few pulleys already don't fit...so i suggest you give them their refund back...and u better hope that the spacers show up this week because a lot of people would seriously like to see ur head on a plate with the words DH-RACING BITCH carved onto your face...