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Old Jun 21, 2004
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My KMS P&P head

Here are some before and after pic's. I am getting my car dyno and tune on july 10. I will post my data on july 11. The head is a stage 2 p&p with titanium retainers and racing springs. I will posts pic of my TB when I get it back and that would be on wednesday.
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Old Jun 21, 2004
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Sweet! But where are the pics? I know some people who would be interested in the outcome.
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Old Jun 22, 2004
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so are you saying they are boring out your TB?
I see no pics
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Old Jun 22, 2004
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Pics?
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Old Jun 22, 2004
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Originally Posted by djmota
so are you saying they are boring out your TB?
I see no pics
The pic's are up now. And the tb is bore to 65mm. I will have pic of th tb when I get it this week.
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Old Jun 22, 2004
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yeah im curious as to how much hp you will gain i cant wait till you post back on the stats. Hurry up!!! haha
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Originally Posted by BLKCIV01
yeah im curious as to how much hp you will gain i cant wait till you post back on the stats. Hurry up!!! haha
John at KMS told me that I will gain 20% hp if I do not tune it. He said like 40% if I get it tune rite.
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Old Jun 22, 2004
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what kind of ECU/fuel system modifications are needed to tune a setup like this?
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Old Jun 22, 2004
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damn for real .. how much was the job??? i might drive out to michigan to see for my self .. na mean
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Originally Posted by HoldDaMayo
what kind of ECU/fuel system modifications are needed to tune a setup like this?
The people that are tuning my car said that the stock fuel rail and injecters are fine. I am using a safc.
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Originally Posted by Quijano187
damn for real .. how much was the job??? i might drive out to michigan to see for my self .. na mean
Everything was 1125 shipped and a 3 week wait.
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who did the work? Local job?
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Originally Posted by Quijano187
who did the work? Local job?
KMS engine development in covington GA.
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cant wait for the results
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I thought KMS made the shitty intake manifold? Are we trusting them again?
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let wait untill this guys gets his dyno!!!
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Originally Posted by IronFist
I thought KMS made the shitty intake manifold? Are we trusting them again?
Better then DH-racing. Everything was on time like john said.
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Well engine work is different than a im. I just wait and see the dyno chart to tell the truth.
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Old Jun 24, 2004
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Originally Posted by IronFist
I thought KMS made the shitty intake manifold? Are we trusting them again?

yeah I rmember that the $500 intake manifold from KMS with short runners.

people lost out power on the bottom end.

looks like it is only good for trubo users who want a bulletproof IM.
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Those ports don't look much bigger than stock IMO. Hopefully it will give you some gain.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Those ports don't look much bigger than stock IMO. Hopefully it will give you some gain.
How much did u gain from the dh head?
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Well by itself, I didn't notice much difference. I've since put on an intake and added more fuel with a vafcII and noticed a bigger gain. I really need to tune it on a dyno to see the best result. But the DH ports are alot bigger than KMS. Still bigger may not necessarily be better in terms of exhaust flow velocity.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Well by itself, I didn't notice much difference. I've since put on an intake and added more fuel with a vafcII and noticed a bigger gain. I really need to tune it on a dyno to see the best result. But the DH ports are alot bigger than KMS. Still bigger may not necessarily be better in terms of exhaust flow velocity.
Did u change the timing belt when u put the head on?
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the KMS wasnt a shitty mani it was just a crappy mani for NA users. The word was amazing tho
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Exactly. the KMS IM was a dissapointment for the N/A people, but FI is a different story...John seems to do pretty good work from what I have seen...I bet the P&P job is better than the DH by far
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I am still waiting for the tb everybody. Once that come in I am good togo.
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does the $1125 cover the p&p, the tb and shipping?
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Originally Posted by Skunk2ner
does the $1125 cover the p&p, the tb and shipping?
Everything and titanium retainer and racing springs.
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