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Old Feb 25, 2005
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just noticed you had an auto by your members ride photos. not bad for an auto.
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GEARBOX!! im freaking out man! i want to know the price!!! make himt ell me! lol, finally some hope for us who want to stay n/a with our autos.
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Ok the price was 1250 for the p&p and tb. The frist 6 runs was weak without the tunning.The frist run was like 96hp. It got better when he tuned it.
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pretty pricy. its like half price of a custom turbo sorta.. almost half..

and u get about half the poonies too I guess. thats rather a lot for a P&P and TB job. (especially for our car)

hmm. i guess there's other a/f mods, since how else did u dyno tune it. heh.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Oh wow. LX auto is less than 90whp stock, prolly closer to 80. That's a huge gain I hope it felt different.
I felt a big different low and high rpms. I could have made more hp. If I had more time I could have made more. The cost was 150 for an hour and thats all I had at the time.
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Old Feb 25, 2005
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so you fell a difference at low rpms do you fell more torque at lowers rpms b/c that is what im lackin

and what problems did you have with the P&P....

i would like to know

thanks
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My car feels alot better in lower rpms after adding some fuel. Also aem pullies and kamikaze header give great low end.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
My car feels alot better in lower rpms after adding some fuel. Also aem pullies and kamikaze header give great low end.
Yea after he added fuel the low rpm feel alot better.
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I would get a cam gear if your head is milled, and tune that on a dyno. AEM has a new 5 bolt design.
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Originally Posted by goodtimes
so you fell a difference at low rpms do you fell more torque at lowers rpms b/c that is what im lackin

and what problems did you have with the P&P....

i would like to know

thanks
The problem was from the o2. So the p&p and tb was fine. I just had to change it. After he added the fuel I felt alot more tq
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Originally Posted by gearbox
I would get a cam gear if your head is milled, and tune that on a dyno. AEM has a new 5 bolt design.
I plan on getting one soon. I just hope somebody come out with a good cam
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jrock2324 thanks for the quick reply
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good **** jimmy let me see it next time
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Originally Posted by ojay
good **** jimmy let me see it next time
Just give me a call.
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allright!!! good job!
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109 WHP Jeepers! I have 104WHP just from I/E/S-AFC II. No way Im spending any more money on this engine.
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Old Mar 7, 2005
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Remember he has an auto tranny, so he's starting out with 20whp less than a manual.
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that is wicked..
I would rather go N/A then Turbo, but there is really not much potential in the D17s
Turbo is just soo much trouble + maintaince
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so basically he got to manual numbers
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Yup. That's my goal too. Hopefully I can get another 10hp from the cam gear, header, and pullies so I'll be around 110whp.
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hmmm. I dunno? His Max Power is at 5700, is the engine still making good power to 7k? Need a proper full Dyno image.

So if I were to get a P&P job with my mods and dynoed again what HP increse would I be looking at?

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I am seriously considering this. 20whp would put me deep into the 14's and if a Cam ever comes out(assuming a gain of at least 10hp) that with my stg2 (been playing GT4 too much) weight redux, clutch +Streetlite Flywheel and tuned with SAFC I might be able to get pretty close to 13's NA. 2100lbs low 14sec NA civic would = fun as hell to drive.
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then use a little spray and drop to the mid 13s
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It's all wishful thinking for the moment, but yes I was thinking the same thing. Just a 35 shot probally would do it. If I do go this route it's not gonna happen overnight. Now that just about all my bills are paid off I plan to save/buy something each month or so. But after this dyno it does look promising and gives some hope.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
Yup. That's my goal too. Hopefully I can get another 10hp from the cam gear, header, and pullies so I'll be around 110whp.
now you auto guys will see what your missing out on
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are auto's cheaper in the states, or somthing? why would you get an auto?
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Well if you can't drive stick... I'm still not good at it and didn't want a ruined car trying to learn on it.
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let's not rag on the auto guys now. people have their reasons. hopefully we can see the same or more of an increase with PnP on a manual. we could be hitting close to 140whp IMO.
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True. That's what one guy reached with pnp, cam gear, i/h/e, and vafcii. Just get the pnp done right. Djmota dynoed around 125whp with the same head I have except his is a manual.
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he just had the head done only, nothing else?
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