My KMS P&P head
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From: NV
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That's not good. Have you linked to an odbII reader to see if there are any codes? But adjusting the tps should fix it. Once it's loose, you can slide it up or down to raise/lower idle.
Originally Posted by jrock2324
The place I took my car to said it can be adjusted. I am going up there now. The car bogs down on me like 3 times last night. I dont even have to give it gas for the car to move. If I let of the brake the mph go up by itself 
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Rep Power: 0 Ok after he look at it all he did was corrected something on my safc. It is runnin good now. He also told me that my safc will not work on my car. He said I had to get the new one. Is this ture or not?
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Rep Power: 812 What's that supposed to mean? Alot of people here use safc if they don't have vtec. Did you have it dyno tuned yet, or did he just adjust one of the initial setup functions.
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Rep Power: 812 This might be useful to you. It's the reply I got from maxbore.com about rasing idle. I'm gonna try it out soon.
Hello Steve.
Adjusting the TPS will not raise the idle.
what you need to do is this.
There is a 7mm nut that holds the butterfly stop screw.
Very carefully, loosen the nut and turn the screw so that
the butterfly opens a little more.
that way it will let more air thru. the old throttle bodies
had an idle adjust screw, but for some reason Honda deleted
that.
lIf you are not comfortable doing that, I can do it for you.
Just send it i and I'll adjust the butterfly to let more air
by.
thanks.
Jorge P.
Adjusting the TPS will not raise the idle.
what you need to do is this.
There is a 7mm nut that holds the butterfly stop screw.
Very carefully, loosen the nut and turn the screw so that
the butterfly opens a little more.
that way it will let more air thru. the old throttle bodies
had an idle adjust screw, but for some reason Honda deleted
that.
lIf you are not comfortable doing that, I can do it for you.
Just send it i and I'll adjust the butterfly to let more air
by.
thanks.
Jorge P.
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Rep Power: 812 No, sorry. My cable is tight and it still idles the same. The only thing you get from a tight cable is instant throttle response when you touch the gas. 
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Originally Posted by gearbox
No, sorry. My cable is tight and it still idles the same. The only thing you get from a tight cable is instant throttle response when you touch the gas.
a little too tight 
so we backed off so it went back to normal, but he still had the added throttle response.. 
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Originally Posted by jrock2324
I am getting the car dyno after they put in my pistons and rings. That going to be like 3 more weeks.
How does the car drive / idle with what you have now? Reason I ask is because everyone here seems to have had problems with a PnP head, except catylist, who doesn't even post here anymore....
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Rep Power: 812 I'd also like to know. My idle is still rough even though it's at 700rpms (normal). Otherwise, there's nothing really wrong. I really wish there was a dyno down here.
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Rep Power: 297 Hey I know you guys know your stuff but I was reading in my manual that when you disconnect the battery you are supposed to do an Idle Learn Procedure. I noticed that if it don't do it the car idles like crap and loads up with fuel for about a week or two till the ecu calibrates itself. Just checking to see if you knew about that.
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Rep Power: 812 I have the Honda service manual and read about it. I sometimes am lazy and don't do it, and the idle is fine. This is before the new head, tho. I did do it recently to see if it helps, but no luck. Oh well, you can't really notice the shaking when holding down the brake pedal.
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Rep Power: 812 I bet it's the head with the ports being too big, but it doesn't bother me much anymore.
cwick187, did you ever get your vafc retuned after everything? This is what I have. Do you think it's okay?
Wide High vtec (only setting tuned for me)
Throttle position 25% narrow, 80% wide
3000rpm -2
3400rpm -2
3600rpm -3
4000rpm -3
4400rpm -2
4600rpm -2
4800rpm -2
5400rpm -2
5800rpm -2
6200rpm -1
cwick187, did you ever get your vafc retuned after everything? This is what I have. Do you think it's okay?
Wide High vtec (only setting tuned for me)
Throttle position 25% narrow, 80% wide
3000rpm -2
3400rpm -2
3600rpm -3
4000rpm -3
4400rpm -2
4600rpm -2
4800rpm -2
5400rpm -2
5800rpm -2
6200rpm -1
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Originally Posted by gearbox
I bet it's the head with the ports being too big, but it doesn't bother me much anymore.
cwick187, did you ever get your vafc retuned after everything? This is what I have. Do you think it's okay?
Wide High vtec (only setting tuned for me)
Throttle position 25% narrow, 80% wide
3000rpm -2
3400rpm -2
3600rpm -3
4000rpm -3
4400rpm -2
4600rpm -2
4800rpm -2
5400rpm -2
5800rpm -2
6200rpm -1
cwick187, did you ever get your vafc retuned after everything? This is what I have. Do you think it's okay?
Wide High vtec (only setting tuned for me)
Throttle position 25% narrow, 80% wide
3000rpm -2
3400rpm -2
3600rpm -3
4000rpm -3
4400rpm -2
4600rpm -2
4800rpm -2
5400rpm -2
5800rpm -2
6200rpm -1
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Rep Power: 812 That's really good, just like stock Si. I've got the head, bored out TB, and header. I'm trying to get it tuned, but there's never time for me and dynos are hard to find. So those settings are okay?
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Originally Posted by opto_isolator
How does the car drive / idle with what you have now? Reason I ask is because everyone here seems to have had problems with a PnP head, except catylist, who doesn't even post here anymore....
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Originally Posted by cwick187
i ended up with 138whp and 123 Tq
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Rep Power: 323 I agree those are great numbers. Do you have the sheet from the dyno?
I would like to know how that curve is shaped and how you are doing on fuel tuning. If you could scan that thing and let us check it out we would appreciate it.
I would like to know how that curve is shaped and how you are doing on fuel tuning. If you could scan that thing and let us check it out we would appreciate it.
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Rep Power: 812 He's using a vafcII and cam gear, although those mods costed alot (not nearly as much as it should have been even).
I have a whole thread on my bored TB. It feels like low end went down a bit, but over 3krpms it pulls nicely If you ask me, it's like an aftermarket air intake without all the noise.
I have a whole thread on my bored TB. It feels like low end went down a bit, but over 3krpms it pulls nicely
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Rep Power: 312 TTT - Any update on dyno? Also - I was just reading KMS' web site. You said you got the "stage 2" PnP - what is different between that and the stage one?
Also - did you get the stainless valves with the springs and keepers - or did you keep your old ones? I am thinking for the money KMS might be the way to go...
I just bought an LX head from another member here for $150, maybe later this year (or early next) I am going to get the PnP with springs / oversized valves / retainers from John -
That is, if your numbers that you put down are decent!
Also - did you get the stainless valves with the springs and keepers - or did you keep your old ones? I am thinking for the money KMS might be the way to go...
I just bought an LX head from another member here for $150, maybe later this year (or early next) I am going to get the PnP with springs / oversized valves / retainers from John -
That is, if your numbers that you put down are decent!
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Rep Power: 0 The stage 2 is a 3 angle valve job. And I got my springs and retainers done. For the tb I just bought a new one for a member of the site so when I get that one I am going to change the bore to see if the tps is f**k up. I cant get it tune until I fix this little problem.
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Originally Posted by jrock2324
The stage 2 is a 3 angle valve job. And I got my springs and retainers done. For the tb I just bought a new one for a member of the site so when I get that one I am going to change the bore to see if the tps is f**k up. I cant get it tune until I fix this little problem.
I was wondering if anybody knows if the 74mm TB is just too big, for a turbo setup with a head job? I have one here I got a while back, but don't know of anybody using it, and I might be better off just getting my stock one bored instead. Any advice from you all?
