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Old Dec 17, 2010
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Originally Posted by civicnewb
man that would be epic!! but now that were on the topic of paint... i was thinking a candy apple red with metal flake for a glitter look?
Even if you spray it yourself, candy apple red is extremely expensive paint the materials alone would be thousands lol

I'm actually digging that aqua paint job, it reminds me of a EDM, UKDM exclusive colour lol

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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

man i love candy apple red... its souch a BA color espessially with metal flake!
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Its bad *** no doubt, its just prohibitively expensive for anything short of a show car. I mean you want to race your car dude, chances are its gonna take a beaten so why spent thousands on a paint job.
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

well yes/no... im only going to race it like a few weekends a year... nothing serious... and its a summer car.... unless i can find some kind of fine steel mesh to custom cover that gaping hole in the bumper that attracts so much snow i can't winter drive it.... plus i would get stuck EVERYWHERE... first things first anyway i want to get the body in nice condition first...

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Its bad *** no doubt, its just prohibitively expensive for anything short of a show car. I mean you want to race your car dude, chances are its gonna take a beaten so why spent thousands on a paint job.
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Originally Posted by MindBomber
Even if you spray it yourself, candy apple red is extremely expensive paint the materials alone would be thousands lol

I'm actually digging that aqua paint job, it reminds me of a EDM, UKDM exclusive colour lol
Candy apple is not that expensive. It does cost a lot for labor to have it done because it harder to apply. But materials would definately not cost thousands!

I say go stealth with black primer sealer!
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen
Candy apple is not that expensive. It does cost a lot for labor to have it done because it harder to apply. But materials would definately not cost thousands!

I say go stealth with black primer sealer!
Thousands might be a bit much, but for a good paint job on a Civic you can normally expect to spend $400-800 on paint, I'm not expert but thats what I understand from my past research. A candy job is easily 6,8,10 or more coats of paint, so it should cost several times what a regular 2-3 coat paint job.

I'm all about satin the new satin clears, I don't know much about candy.
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Originally Posted by MindBomber
Thousands might be a bit much, but for a good paint job on a Civic you can normally expect to spend $400-800 on paint, I'm not expert but thats what I understand from my past research. A candy job is easily 6,8,10 or more coats of paint, so it should cost several times what a regular 2-3 coat paint job.

I'm all about satin the new satin clears, I don't know much about candy.
A 2-3 coat paint job is half assing it. If I remember correctly you would need...

1 coat sealer
1 coat silver or metalflake paint
1-3 coats of candy (which is just a translucent colored paint) depanding on how dark you want it.
3-5 coats of clear

I think that's right, but it's been a while sense I've researched it.

P.S. I will be attempting my first paint job this summer/spring on my truck

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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen
A 2-3 coat paint job is half assing it. If I remember correctly you would need...

1 coat sealer
1 coat silver or metalflake paint
1-3 coats of candy (which is just a translucent colored paint) depanding on how dark you want it.
3-5 coats of clear

I think that's right, but it's been a while sense I've researched it.
I meant 2-3 coats is a regular paint job, like the stock paint.

I've seen a few candy apple paint jobs that do 4 coats gold, 6 coats red, 5 coats clear. Damn thats a lot of wet sanding..
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Originally Posted by MindBomber
I meant 2-3 coats is a regular paint job, like the stock paint.

I've seen a few candy apple paint jobs that do 4 coats gold, 6 coats red, 5 coats clear. Damn thats a lot of wet sanding..
Factory paint jobs use more than 3 coats! More like 5 coats!

You might find this post from another forum interesting...
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=182499

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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

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Factory paint jobs use more than 3 coats! More like 5 coats!
Depends on the manufacturer, some only do two stage with clear coat.
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

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Depends on the manufacturer, some only do two stage with clear coat.
^ Check my last post, I edited it too slowly lol
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

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^ Check my last post, I edited it too slowly lol
I'm copying that and making it a sticky, with due credit given of course, in our paint section. I'd rep you for that link, but I rep'd you to recently lol
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

now i have an AWSOME problem!! i love it when my oil blows EVERYWHERE... im sick of this im gonna just step up and buy a b18
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

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now i have an AWSOME problem!! i love it when my oil blows EVERYWHERE... im sick of this im gonna just step up and buy a b18
If you are going to keep the turbo then I would just rebuild that engine with forged internals that can take a lot of boost. A B18 will not take very much boost, and the compression ratio is high too.
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

Originally Posted by Mad Dog Tannen
If you are going to keep the turbo then I would just rebuild that engine with forged internals that can take a lot of boost. A B18 will not take very much boost, and the compression ratio is high too.
If you swap in low compression pistons its a good turbo motor, but if your not going to build the internals then go for a non-vtec motor with lower compression..

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^ Basically what I was getting at.
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

im planning on forged internals so it really don't matter what the compression is
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You still want low compression pistons even if it does have forged internals.
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Re: no idea if this is a good set up or not

well... ya? i thought thats what you needed to do with boost is lower the compression?... oh i get it.... yeah what i meant in my last post is... it don't matter what the compression is becuase i will be buying forged pistons with lower compression

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You still want low compression pistons even if it does have forged internals.
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