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Uh oh... my left headlight went out... battery was messed up too, but the right headlight still works... ah! What happened?! I don't have a relay harness, do I need one? The car wouldn't start, but there was enough juice to turn the gauges and map lights on. Somebody PM me and help me out? Yaaa... I'm a noob...

 
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yeah you might have damaged the stock wiring. hopefully not but its possible if you didnt use a new harness with thicker wire that can support the extra current. or could be you just didnt have enough power left to fire up both ballasts. they take a ton of power during the first second or two to ignite the bulb.

 
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Yahh hopefully you didn't damage your stock hl wiring... get an eBay relay harness that draws power directly from your battery.. the relay only requires one HL connection that works .. so you'd have to connect it to the Right headlight in this case. gl.

 
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ditto. you can get them for less than $20 on ebay. if you have a 7th gen with H4 bulbs, you NEED to specify that it's ground switching. standard positive switching won't work on our cars. yes, it does matter.

 
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I thought about doing the same thing with my TYC's. I would like to go with some sort of HID setup. Is anyone having any luck with the TYC's and an particular HID brand setup? I have silverstars in mine right now and they are ok but I just want HID's. Thanks ahead!

 
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the projector that comes with tyc is for halogen bulb, not hid. it will be terrible with any plug in type kit. its not even great with the halogens lol. you gotta swap out the projector. and thats not easy either since you most likely have to do some custom cutting and mounting.

 
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Yea but it will look so much better than in a stock housing i think. That is the route I am going to go when I have the cash.

 
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idk, i dont really like the look of any of the aftermarket projector headlamps. i thought about the all chrome ones but they look rice with the stupid halo. i think the black sonars would look decent if you repainted the insert a dark gloss black and had the turn signal piece professionally chromed. but thats alot of $.

 
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yep. click the link in my sig and you'll see just how much! LOL

 
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Well my civic is black so the black tyc's just look better than stock in my opinion and it doesn't look flashy or anything to me. I am on the fence as far as color match painting the housing. If the paint could stand up to the heat then why not.

 
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yeah well with hids, it should be no problem since they dont radiate much heat. the bulb itself gets hot, but it gets dissipated quickly. i would just take em to the body shop and do a match for the shrouds. the stock flat black is VERY light color and looks cheap imo. but yea on a black car they would blend in nicely.

 
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Yeah I can see that point of view too but as my car is NYBP and my tails are blacked out 04's it just flows better. On reading up on (electrics?) time with retroing the TYC's it def doesn't look like a walk in the park lol. The only other option would be a totally blacked out stockers. Got any pics of some good retro'd stocks? Would like to see some ideas for shrouds that dont involve stove plates lol

 
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So would purchasing a relay harness help the flickering and the end result of my battery dying? I sent it into Honda to fix for $166 and it went out again... so pissed... could be my battery, but I really doubt it... I'm gonna invest in a relay harness now... should it help the problem?

 
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yeah it should. can goto suvlights.com and get a universal fog light relay harness if you dont mind the wire cutting and splicing.

its really hard to find retro in our stock lights lol. here is one after reading through 72 pages of honda techs hid thread. i think ima try the osram hyper H4 halogens for $40 (65w, 1350 lumens compared to stock 55w 1000 lumens) boosted in my stock lights, and if thats not enough, or i end up messing up the zeta or the headlamps, im gonna just save up and have someone retro TL projectors in stock housing all chrome. kinda like this guys.

 
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wow that actually looks nice
Wonder how he did it.

 
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its just X5 projectors and a bmw shroud for the exterior. the actual mounting takes alot more effort but if done properly, you can use the stock adjusters to aim it. i just dont have the time to mess with that stuff anymore. that writing around the side says bmw dynamic xenon or something. you can look on ebay for "projector shroud" and get quite a few matches, but they are expensive since it comes out of whole headlamps.

 
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has anyone tried 50w ballasts and bulbs i wonder? supposed to be brighter than 35w oem, but again quality issues come up, and the bulb may not be positioned in the exact spot for the best output. idk, and its expensive too

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-4...spagenameZWD1V

 
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in halogen projectors or stock housing?. Id like to know myself

 
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dont get the shenzhen ballasts...they suck. I think there couple threads about them on hidplanet about how they break

 
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well i was thinking for oem projectors. it would be a glare fest in halogen housings. they are quite a bit brighter than normal 35w bulb/ballasts. thats the only 50w kit ive seen unless you know of a better one.

 
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didn't you have a valeo hid retrofit before? i thought you just sold them.

 
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yea HAD valeos, those got sold quite a while ago. barely lasted a year til a ballast got water damaged, and i got sick of the subpar output. my halogens now have more light and will soon have even better with the new bulbs. but if i do get a retro it will be with decent projectors not some valeo/e46/tsx junk.

 
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actually the tsx's are better then the TL's. The tsx's have a clear lens vs the frosted lens of the TL. The TL's are considered one of the better bixenon projectors, just under the LS460 projectors. The tsx's have a sharper cutoff and give off more color then the TL's. The TL's i believe give off a slightly wider beam due to the larger diameter of the lens.

I've had both the bixenon e46's and the tsx's. I think the e46's light up more of the road and light up signs better. I use to light all four lanes of traffic if i was on the road by myself.


The tsx has a sharp cutoff and gives off more color. Both projectors light up the road well...i wouldn't consider them junk.

 
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i have. they make a big difference...almost (i did say almost) good as my 70w denso ballast...

but to answer ur question, they are noticeably brighter. ive compared it on TSX projectors side bi side...

go on retrosoultion.com (sp) and buy them. its worth it, i use it with my 4300k oem phillips bulbs.







to be honest, i think the TSX has a more even foreground than the e46 bi-xe.

ive retro the e46 into my friends CL and i did a side to side comparision as well as a road drive test.



and.......TSX bixenon FTW!

 
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i agree the foreground is better, but i like how the e46's light up signs from further away due to the dot line. I didn't really notice it until i switched to the tsx. Only way i could get the same kind of lighting distance was to aim the tsx projectors higher. I'm not into blinding oncoming traffic. its just a compare and constrast. I'm happy with my Tsx's.

 
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Tsx is way better than any bosch projector (or valeo) lol, but its by no means anywhere near the best. just because its colorful, doesnt mean it performs well. lets put this to rest before it gets out of hand. TL on the left, tsx on the right, same bulbs pair, with a divider in the middle to separate the beam. totally stock projectors, not modified in any way. clear lens tsx, fresnel tl. you gonna tell me the tsx is better? clear lens and color dont always translate to better light output.

 
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how long have you had it? any heatsink on them or just running it stock? what brand? 180 shipped wow thats cheap lol.

 
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and since nobody actually answered the OPs question, here is a pic of H1 hid kit (5000K) in stock tyc halogen projectors.



and a few more



valeo retrofit on the left, h1 hid kit in tyc on the right



another tyc hid on the ground



one more hid in tyc

 
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what did you get fixed (or not) for $166? and what went out again? the relay harness will probably fix the flickering if it's just a problem of the ballasts not getting enough constant voltage. if it's a bad connection or a problem with your electrical charging system, then no, the harness won't fix your flickering. either way, the harness will prevent you from burning up your stock wires, so i HIGHLY suggest getting it anyway.

 
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no it's not. but it's NOT junk either. after having driven with both Valeo's and TSX projectors, i can tell you for a FACT that the TSX are not junk for light output. i've been riding behind them for almost a year and i still love them. i haven't driven stock TL's in person, but i've seen them up close. put side by side with a TSX, sure the TL is brighter. but how many times are you actually going to be doing that while driving down the road? when you're driving by yourself, the TSX are very, very nice. better than any halogen setup.....boosted or not.