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well im in texas all next week, then i need to find a job lol. so prolly not for a while. it wont matter cause theres no way to work on the car in this -2 degree weather. but yeah i should have the parts fairly soon (tomorrow)? i hope before i leave. i still waiting on the tl projectors and lenses, the most important ones lol. and i gotta take pics of those first, then think how to mount them in the reflector. i was thinking use hole saw and then screws plus silicone to attach projector. somehow getting the aim close too...and making shroud fit.

 
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hey gearbox, do u think having the DL50w running on 50w ballast is THAT MUCH brighter than running regular philips 35w on 50w ballast?

 
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is it true that 4300k hid kits (cheap ebay kits that is) have more of a yellowish look to them...rather than a pure white???

 
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It depends on what you mean by "pure white". Regardless of whether they're ebay or oem, 4300k will have a yellowish look to it, but it is still white. When you jump up to 5000k it is also white, however the white is more of a bluish white.

 
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i took my "ebay" angel eye projectors bs headlights off and put my stocks back on....still debating what to do from here

 
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no. i have 4300k's in my fogs as well as my low beams. there's no yellow to them. all the BMW's, Mercedes, Lexus's, ect that have OEM HID's are running either 4100k's or 4300k's. so that's what 4300k's look like. don't know about you, but they sure don't look at all yellow to me. especially when i drive mine!

 
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um YES lol. go look at the pics again. but even just running boosted 35w bulbs is still a very good improvement over stock setup. its just that the 50w is even more.

 
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there is a bit of yellow tint to brand new hid bulbs, whether in car or on the street. this is compared to aged hid. when compared to halogen, the hid is still much much whiter. here are the specs for the DL50 bulbs.

lumens: 5300! omg
wattage: 50
life hours: 3000
kelvin: 3900K
CRI 75

civicrida15, as youre deciding or finding money, you could get the catz zeta ballasts from ebay for the stock halogens. its only around $80 and it makes the halogens alot brighter. runs them at 15v+ instead of 13-14v. i have them now and its a noticable difference. i will be switching them to my halogen fogs as soon as i finish this hid retro for the main light.

 
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i guess it's a matter of personal perception then because i've never felt mine were yellow. even a slight bit. somewhere at HID Planet, i posted pics of the 85122+'s when they were brand new and i didn't think they were even slightly yellow.

 
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yeah i always saw pics of them as being yellowish, but when i fired em up at home, they looked white to me too

 
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I love my 6000k bulbs ... looks soooo nice w/ the baby blue

 
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omg what a ricer haha. you only have 2400 lumen per bulb

 
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heres some pics of the dl50 bulbs and what i needed to mod on the projector (dremel off the lil peg)



shrouds on the left. did i post this already?

 
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look i made another graph. its bulb life and lumen decrease. at 1500 hrs, you lost 1000 lumens per bulb. by 3000 hrs, you are down to a stock halogen setup

 
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lol whatever you say guy.. all I know is I can see the road better now that I did stock.

 
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nice pics. ballasts look like Mat Gen 3's? or they from the kit?

 
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ofourse....2400Lm vs 1000Lm......doesnt take a genius....

but its 2400lm of unfocused shattered light.

if you saw a 3200lm of focused light, youd understand what he's getting at.

betttter yet 4300+ Lm of focused boosted light...

 
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nah, i think he used that for the 35w ballast on the 35w bulb test. that does look like a 3rd gen matsh. ballast.

 
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ya its matsu, the kit ballasts are just generic but they look nice i guess ha.

okay how about this, boosted halogens at 2000 lumen with correct focal point, or 6000k hid at 2400 lumen with bad focal point. hmm

 
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hey electric130....could the projectors you used for your foglights be used in a headlight housing???

 
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no, you want a step cutoff (not flat) so you get more light on the right side.

 
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would it shine far enough to be used as a headlight?????????

 
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i kinda doubt it. fogs dont have alot of reach. its not designed for headlights.

 
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lol look at this guy, he has 7 hid lights lo/hi/and 3 middle its like driving on a cloudy day

 
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damn...that's retarded unless you're in a jacked up truck

 
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why would anyone need that much light? That's overkill for driving on the streets.

 
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nope. gearbox pretty much summed it up. the projectors i have for fogs are a straight cutoff, but more importantly, they're focused for wide, short beam rather than for distance. plus having a PNP kit running along side an OEM setup, the OEM is A LOT brigther. i was noticing this yesterday morning when i left for work and i had just my fogs on as i backed out of the driveway. i'm tempted to mod my fogs to put D2S bulbs in there so i can run some OEM Philips bulbs. the PNP bulbs just aren't as bright as OEM bulbs (at least for me).

 
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here's a pic i found when i had installed my fogs, but the headlights were still stock halogens. actually, those are Sylvania Silver Star bulbs in the low beams! but this is to give you an idea of what 4300k HID's look like compared to stock halogens. now, i say again, 4300k HID has no yellow to it.

 
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and for that car who had 7 HIDS.. OMG.. wtf was he/she thinking?
BAN BAN BAN!!!!

 
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RJ stfu this thread is kick *** lol. Now I can't spend money on a retro cause I am building an engine...damnit! :-(