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This is a passage taken from dgtrials (and I use this because I could not have related this better):

"D is for Drifting
There are many misconceptions about the sport of drifting. Drifting is not simply sliding a car’s tail out under power in the middle of or after a turn. Drifting is not simply spinning your tires. Drifting is not doing "donuts". The loss of traction alone does not mean that you are drifting. Drifting is not simply a technique to be applied – there is a mentality involved as well. Drifting, in the simplest sense, is the use of an intentional controlled slide to navigate around a turn. When used on a circuit, street course, or mountain pass, it can ultimately lead to complex strings of multi-directional slides that use a variety of techniques to maintain extreme over steer. The pure essence of drifting is to never appear to have control of the vehicle, while always having complete control over the vehicle!"

In full truth, yes traction is needed...if there is no traction there is no control; if there is no control there is no skill; if there is no skill that is not driving.

To answer what seems like an age old question "what is the best suspension setup for me" would be what someone else said...none...if you do not have seat time and knowledge of your own driving skills. Go do some track events with instructors and determine what your driving style is with your car...no one can just simply tell you what to use and if it will be the best setup...you have to find out what the "chemistry" is between you and the car...and on top of that one setup is not going to be the best for all tracks. My suggestion is until you find yourself needing more adjustability as a novice driver you should go with Koni Yellows and Ground Controls. Then make the needed upgrades later. Besides while you are tying to figure out your car, your driving style and setup, you wont be so pissed when you do go off track because the Koni’s will not bend up like the others that have light aluminum housings.

Also trust me boilermaker and zzyzx spend a lot more time than most of the people here at AutoX and at the Circuit tracks they would not steer you wrong.

Oh one last thing best price I have seen: Shox.com

 
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Damn right. I'll tell you this though - they're better than the Hayames, cause from day 1 I wasn't confident enough in the Hayames to even take quick turns on the regular. So much noise and the wheel wobble that I eventually got. The Megans do feel a great deal more solid, but like zzyzx says, you don't really know how good the components are, and on a track that would make for a time difference. So for those who read my glowing review on this section of the site, let me add that all my testing and pushing the suspension and whatnot were done on the street, during spirited but not overly dangerous city driving. These coils will get you down a mountain road with a good deal of confidence, but in no way can I tell anyone "These will last you years of track use". I just don't see a set of $1300 (CDN) coilovers making my car a track monster. Know the limits, you do get what you pay for. If the coilovers are that cheap, there IS something to them that sets them apart from say Tein Flex.....I'm guessing it's the unknown components.

Just checked mine last night while changing oil and replacing front rims - threads still look good, no corrosion, no leaks, and still rides great, took some nice corners last night.

 
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and yes i know anger leads to fear...which leads to the dark side...

 
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i thought these were based on apexi n1's? for the adjustability i'd get them for under 1k

 
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actually you'll find that most people who get in to compititon... ushually end up with Ground controls and Konis, for various reasons.... Thats the direction I'm heading, and its the Direction Boilermaker went (from JIC's to Konis + ground contorls).

 
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Yup...Spec Miata and Spec 7 all run Koni Yellows and Ground Controls.

 
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wuts the drop on ground controls?

 
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For good measure:
http://www.ground-control-store.com/....php/pageKey=3

and if I am not mistaken you get a 0-2.5 in. drop.

 
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I really have to say, all the argument about ksport, tein, d2, yadda yaddaa...its means nothing.

If no one has driven a car that has ksport, or teins, or d2, or megans, then you really can't comment. Its all just pure speculation.

However, I have sat in a civic with Tein Super Streets. The suspsension is rediculously hard. I've driven a Accord V6 with Tein Basics and the suspension is really nice. Not to hard not to soft. As for the ksports, well I own them. Do I love them? Of course I only paid $700 shipped to my door.

As for a review, what can I say? They handle really nice...its rediculously impressive. The car feels planted, handles well, and the damper...it comes in handy. I can really dial in and out my oversteer or understeer.

Also who ever said that ksport=d2=megan, I think ur wrong. I talked to the guy who deals ksport coilover in the USA. Yes Im not talking about one of the dealers...I'm talking about the ksport company in Arizona. He assured me that ksports aren't copies of the d2 or megan. They aren't even made in the same factory as some ppl claim.

BUT what the who...just ignore what the buyers are say. And just listen to the speculation. If people have purchased the product and like it, and aren't having problems with them...then why ignore their review and listen to someone who is only speculating?

Just do what you think is best.

Sry if I offended anyone aka Zzyzx or RobClark. I look up to u guys because you all really know ur cars well.

Oh and on a side note to truehonda. I know your trying to do whats best of the 7thgencivic forums, but bashing on someone elses product then refering urself as someone who can help buy parts isn't good business ethics. So far every post I see from you is, blah blah blah this product sucks, buy my ****! Come on man...if u wanna help out, then ur obligated to ur opinion. But the way you go around and post just doesn't seem like good business. Seems more like ur repping urself and talking trash about others.

 
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Well said for a new member!! I concur lol

 
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Im opposing companies who make these products, not vendors who sell em. Did I ever once mention one vendor as bad on here? In any case, the point being, I used to WORK with the factories who made these things when we made wheels. I know from 1st hand evidence and not speculation. When the owner of the factory in China offered us to create our own suspension line and showed me what it looks like, yes, I would say that I have knowlege enough in what im talking about.

In any case, dont buy from us if you dont want to. Buy from, me, Paul (Dezod), Rob (Robear), etc. Its all fair game. I am happy you guys are happy with your products. Many people dont mind APC parts either because they work to a certain extent. I guess, if you daily drive, they should be fine. They are not built for the track, thats all we are trying to say. Me, Robclark etc. If you like em, killer, enjoy them and they do come with a decent price I cant hate on that at all.

But when you guys start comparing these companies to Tein, Apexi, Koni, and other companies who pride themselves on their racing heritage to make great products from that R&D, I get upset. Sorry, its always been a petpieve of mine to have not only performance on the track but SAFTEY.

I posted a few things up just to show the truth behind it thats all. It was not an unethical ploy to get you guys to buy from us. I am just frustrated with people being mislead to make a quick buck by those who sell these and many other products on the internet which are just copies or faulty look a likes. To me, THAT IS UNETHICAL.

Edward

 
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Yea if you can post evidence that geniuely shows us that products are bad. Well then I can understand. But so far you've always popped in written a sentence or two and never really back urself up. Thats why it seem shady to me.

I know ur a good company because others give u good feedback. And I did not mean to imply that you were implying that other vendors are bad. I intended to imply that, you were stating ur company was the best because you do not carry "shitty" brands. So it seemed like u wanted to influence them not to buy the "shitty" product, and buy a good product from you. Thereby gaining urself business. Thats what bothers me the most.

But for the most part I think truehonda is a honest company, just sometime I get the wrong impression from you.

 
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^haha, then why don't you buy it, try it out on road and track, then let us know how it goes...

you gotta keep in mind, as vendors, we're not out there just to make a few bucks...we're doing this because we actually have an INTEREST in cars...and yes, it's true vendors don't like to carry shitty parts...u know why? because we HATE it when customers come back with complaints and asking for refunds and ****...that's why we don't carry a lot of the products out there. because we either know it doesn't work, or because it's simply ****, or simply because it's hard to sell or get their products at a good price! When you start seeing vendors carry ractive and other shitty *** brands, those are the one's u should be worried about, cause THOSE are the guys out there trying to make a few bucks off of you.

 
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Yea I have, I own a set of ksport coilovers. Didn't you read my post? I like them, they handle well, the quality is good, and soo far no problems.

But besides, thats not the point. The point is of how truehonda presents and argues in posts, in a sense its the diction he uses. Not what vendors carry and what they don't carry. Its how he argues again the product that doesn't seem to be well known, then trys to influence them to buy something else from him.

 
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^no, sorry i just kinda skimmed through it...

but i know what you mean...but hey, the man's just trying to pay his bills...can't blame him for trying...

 
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I feel like im not in this .

 
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Just to prove my point. I have provided a link of a site we used to go to, www.alibaba.com that deals with international product buying/selling/trade. I didnt find our company here who made the wheels, but they were listed. Check out what you can sell with your own brand name in the states:

http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturers...Absorbers.html

 
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This in no way, proves that Meganracing is a bad company. All this does is show that there are people other than large companies out there putting R&D into their work and coming out with great products. Ever hear of outsourcing?
Some people are good at designing others are good at selling.

 
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We have opinions bud. Just wanted to share some backup thats all. THey may work fine!

Eddie

 
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as a salesman in a flesh and blood store, i can say megan's suspension is solid and well priced. there is a whole team locally called hot tea dori that runs megan's coildamper. and the whole team is hard working mechanics and salesmans from the few shops in town.

i see it this way, if us salesman are willing to put it on the car, i think it's good enough. these guys are out there drifting weekly on these megan dampers, some of them have had them for almost a year now, no problems.

i've got sick of waiting for megan to release their version for the mr2, and actually ended up becoming a ksport dealer. i hope i will have first hand experience for you all when the ksports arrive for my civic and mr2. the civic's comparison will be to koni yellow with neuspeed sports...

 
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good info thanks. Hope the Ksports work well for you.

 
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hey where to get the megans for 800?

 
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Theres a shop in El Monte Called "M1autosport" they have em for $800 cash no tax OTD. For more info goto www.m1autosport.com

 
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For locals, we can do that also.
Give us a holla!!

 
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got mine for 800 with free hats shirts patches etc =)

 
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ya, just cause honda makes acura **** doesnt mean your civic is engineered just like an nsx...

so that argument means nothing . even if there made by the same company theyll still put crappier **** on the lower end stuff...

 
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I agree with you... And also, a lot of the stuff you buy here isn't even the top of the line stuff even with the big names like Apexi, Tein, and HKS for example... We still get the their mid to lower end stuff in North America...

 
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i use megan full coilovers myself
they aren't the best coilovers, but for the price they cost, they are worth it.
they won't be the coilovers of your choice if you are a brand name *****,
and infact, in my opinion, they are not built for hardcore auto-x. but if you use them
as daily drive and some race once in a while, they are more than enough.
as for reliability, they are still too new to comment on anything.
in the end, you get what you pay for.. they are 800USD height and damper adjustible
coilovers, comparing them to the coilovers for the same price, imo, they are the best
bang for the buck. atleast, they don't break just like THAT, like the omni's..