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from a vender's point of view, it goes like this.

if you can afford it, get better suspension

but for the money, the megan dampers are well worth it. i think they do put a bit of r&d into their product. how much, i don't know. i am personally waiting for their mr2 coilddampers to finish prototyping and released (a member of mr2oc is prototyping the unit)

 
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I hate to point out but you say you use the car for 50% street 50% compition, then go on to say that you take corners/onramps fast and plan on takeing the car to the track eventually.... But I digress.

If your dampers are blown, and you truly do intend on doing track days or autocross, then I'd say get some Konis and leave it. (for now at least) simply because there isnt a part you could thow at the car right now thats going to make you Fast on track. Because it isnt the car thats going to be makeing you slow. you sir, need seat time, and lots of it. and once you develop proper driving techniques you'll be in a much better place to make suspension tuning decisions. (Because you'll actually know what the car is doing and what you are making it do... so you can tune accordingly)


as far as Megan and any of those other "cheep" coilovers... From a tuners stand point all I can say is that untill I see some shock dynos (for comparison) and we get more info on what actually gets adjusted (bump rebound both? ect..) there is no way that I would recomend any of them to some one who plans on using the car for compittion or track use. there are by far too many unknowns.

 
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Yes, i totally agree with you, EDFC is a total waste of money...people usually buy it for looks more than anything. Another way to think about coilovers is that they are suspension that is used for developing purposes. Why waste the money/time adjusting and readjusting when you can just buy some mugen tuned suspension that already has the height set and u don't need to worry about any of that stuff? And it's also a cheaper suspension

 
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This is a very true statement also. But you gotta realize is that customers are always trying to protect themselves from scams and other shitty products out there. Hense all the questions being asked about a certain product. If the company was really that respectible, they would spend the extra money and get their products dyno tested. The reasons why rumours start is because the companies are shaddy and people start to question

 
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The price for the Megan is unbelieveably cheap...too good to be true..a very nice product indeed, very nice paint and what-not...honestly, it's companies like Megan that put bigger/better companies out of business. That's why i'm totally against Megan and Ractive etc etc etc...they market their products so goddamn cheap...and the bigger companies can't do anything about it...That being said, vendors and companies will start losing money too because they realize that megan is a shitty product, and aren't willing to carry their line, business will start going downhill for us too. Then you got those ********* that come in acting all tough **** and demanding a discount for every goddamn product they buy...well we got bills to pay too, so we try to give them the best deal we can, and sooner or later, everyone comes in asking for discounts...

 
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These cheap prices lead the ricers straight to their parts. You always hear that someone got shitty springs, then blew their shocks then got hayames that died in 2 weeks...blah blah blah blah....same ****. You have to pay to play this game. If not, GTFO or you will be made fun of!

 
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I'd be more inclined to say that not providing the proper information regarding the products they sell is what makes it hard for "new companys to come about"


give us the right informantion and the products instantly becomes more Viable.

 
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I'm not a newbie to track, I've driven other cars on track but not my own car yet, I'm not the best driver but I'm good enough to go a couple of hours without any fvckups. Now I want to tune my own car for track and since I got a fvcked up suspension, that'll be my first priority. Now that I want to spend some $$ I want to get something that will last long and perform well, I dont wanna spend little money & in awhile realize that itz not wut I need and have to spend more $$ to get new stuff.
I was thinking to get Tein ss. I've read good reviews on them & Tein has a good reputation & they only do suspension & all their products are tested & dyno proven. With the ss I think I'll be just fine on the street and on Track. This is only if I can find a used set for a good price, if not I'll go with Koni yellows.
My current setup is pissing me off, I almost lose control of the car on every bump at high speeds.

 
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Zzyzx will tell you that tein is crap because of the dampers and that tein doesn't show shock dynos. Anyhoo...If I had to do it over again, I would have done konis and GCs or got full coils that adjusted both bump and rebound (KW V3's that aren't for our car).

 
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wut if I found a used set of Tein ss for $600 shipped? would it be worth it?

 
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Get Tein flex....very very excellent suspension, very stiff springs. The good thing about tein is you can always get the suspension rebuilt by tein for a certain amount even a couple of years down the road. I think every car that goes over a bump during high speeds will cause ur car to lose control.

 
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haha, ground control = made in TAIWAN!! and tein does have dyno charts, go search around..or even email tein in japan (if they reply)

 
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yes...

 
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THey arnt crap, they just run their dampers counter intuitive to getting the best handling out of the car. they are great for street use, and make a pretty decent Dual purpous setup. but as a Pure track setup your just better off with something else.

 
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I have many full track friends that have switched to megan, one of my friends for example previously had kei office suspension, he tracks every week and has won and lost many races. He's been building his car for 7 years now, and has now switched to Megan's track edition for his 240sx. I will get more info when I see him later this week.
Megan is more reputable than you guys believe.

 
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i don't see how a professional driver like your friend can handle springs rates of 8kg and 10kg...i go on track as well and my tein flex rates are 12 and 14 and they're ok for track racing...8 and 10 would just be too soft...ask your friend what he thinks about the megans and then ask him again in a few months after he's bagged the **** out of them. My flex has done at least 20 hours of track and so far so good, no leaks, no weird noises, springs still firm

(unless the track edition springs are higher)

 
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How much did the flex cost u?

 
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^too much..haha...but sometimes it's worth it to pay extra...for tein, their warranty is pretty shitty, but they offer suspension rebuild service..which i really like..so if u ever blow ur strut, u can always send it back for 50 bucks and get them to rebuild it...they'll replace all the valves or whatever is broken...you can also tell them to custom a suspension for you..let's say you don't like the dampening and u want to change the stiffness, they can do that for you as well...and besides, tein is jdm yo! haha

 
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yoo man just tell me how much?? lol I might be able to get a deal on a set

 
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haha, i get my **** at cost tho since i work for an aftermarket company...i'll pm u the price

 
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Ok Stop. Stiffer springs do not mean they are better for track use. the proper spring rates depend on a multitude of things from Track roughness to anti-roll bar effectiveness and Tire stickyness. saying Spring X is bad for track use because its "soft" isnt correct. Infact for best handling, you want to run the softest spring you can get away with, other wise your just beating up your kidnys and eating in to your cars mechanical grip.

 
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^very true, this honestly comes down to driving technique and personal preference...some people like it softer, some people like it stiffer...personally i like my spring rates to be a little bit stiffer

 
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WOW!! We should sticky this thread?

 
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^we should, this is a very educational thread...and there's no threats and hate posts yet

 
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^ you forget, there is a lot of hate on Megan in this thread

I just found out a few days ago, that he switched over to megan from kei office. So I haven't even talked to him yet, but his car sits outside the shop. My friend took a ride in it and immediately ordered a set of megan track edition for his track car lol. Probably not the best idea since he just started his build and there are a ton of factors hes not considering.

New information and results of any type of races will come when I see him.

 
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I'm curious as to what your friend actually uses his car for. Club racing? Open track? what? and what other setups would he have used in order to compair.

BTW, I'm not hateing on Megan. I just have a problem with recomending a suspension that has WAY too little information avalible regarding the damper it uses. They may in fact be a decent setup, however they also may be a crap setup. We'll truly never know untill we get that information regarding the dampers. Individual testimonis dont really mean a whole hell of a lot. not when the difference between a good damper and a bad damper is a few tenths per corner (not something you could feel to say Brand X is better then brand Y, you'd have to see the difference on the clock)

 
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http://www.thespeedfactor.com/cust_benji.html

heres 1 guy that has switched over to megan, but I haven't seen him in like 2 years. I have only heard he likes them, but haven't heard from him. As far as the guy with kei office, I haven't talked to him yet, but he uses sticky, non sticky and mild compound every time he goes out to see what will work best with the current track setup, full roll cage, adjustable sways front back, probably just about everything you can do, plus running 25 lbs of boost.

and Zzyzx, my friend should get his track edition megan's on friday, I will try and get whatever tests I can done, and try and post them up. PM me

 
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one of my friends owns underground motorsports and he told me that meagan racing makes some of the best suspension parts around.

 
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Um, not to bag on anyone here, but I would really call drifting "racing". What works in a drifting competion would not work well at all on an actual track or autox. Think about it, the goal of drifting is to loose traction, the goal of roadracing is to be able to use as much of it as possible. Yes, balance is important in drifting, but i would just throw out a guess that all you need to do to set up a drift car is throw a frickin huge rear sway on it and some 1000lb/in springs in the rear. They are just trying to make the cars tail happy.

 
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^ throw out a guess is what it is, and I happened to mention benji, has nothing to do with previous racer.