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Old Apr 21, 2003
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114 on the stick LX on basically a flat road
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so uh just asking uh where do u uh get your ecus flashed
ya know um yea
these governers suck so uh yea hit me up with the info
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What engine does the hx have

Can you put an Hx transmission in an ex or lx?

what is different b/w the ex and hx?
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PunkingCivic- 130 in an LX?! Unless you bypass the rev- limiter via an ECU upgrade, there is no way that is possible. Prove it.
Well I don't have a Video camera or a digital camera to prove to unbeleivers. But I'm not bull shitting you. I hit 130. I run the same road when I leave my ladies house and haul *** down it all the time. I get great cold air by the beach on a flat straight road.

I'll do it again tonight!!! when I leave her house.

Also why would they put milage on a car that it couldn't reach. Maybe your hitting the rev limit because you aren't shifting into fifth gear. or you have an auto.
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Originally posted by chriscivic
What engine does the hx have

Can you put an Hx transmission in an ex or lx?

what is different b/w the ex and hx?
The HX is a d17A6 which is 117 HP @ 6100 RPMS and 105 Torque @ 4200 Has Vtec
The EX is a d17A2 (I think) which is a 127 HP @6100 RPMS and 107 Torque @ 4500 Has Vtec
The DX, LX is a d17A1 (I think) which is 115 HP @ 6100 and 105 Torque @ 4300 Does Not Have Vtec

I'm pretty sure on those stats listed above.


I don't see why you couldn't put in an HX transmission as long as it wasn't the CVT. If you did though, your quarter mile time would probably suffer. The one cool thing about the HX's gearing is that at Peak HP it's going 60 MPH, so when driving along twisty roads, you can basically stay in 2nd gear, the EX and LX have simiar gearing, but not quite as tall.

Here's my spreedsheet again which shows all this
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ok. lets think a few about this one. first off, our cars have NO governors. (yes i read some former member proved this by putting their car on jackstands). i even tried this to see if we indeed have a gov. i have an ex auto so i jacked up the front tires. then i got in and i pushed the pedal as far as it can go. well... about 158 mph @ 7000 rpms. the reason why the wheels wouldnt spin any faster than 158 because the car is redline limited. and yes, the autos have a taller 4th gear than the mt's 5th so that means the autos would theoretically have a faster top speed if they had more power to max out the hp part on the power band (i guess hp peaks at like 6600 rpms).
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I might be wrong, but I thought the DX and LX engines were governed at 115, I know the HX and EX engines have no governer.
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the hx is governed. i read the manual. or i think i did . go verify it for me.
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That only applies for the CVT, I've read the manual as well...and I do agree that on page 181 it states that "When the vehicle reaches the maximum speed in any shift position, you may feel the engine cut in and out. This is caused by a limiter (112 MPH) in the engines computer controls.)

I think it's refering to a rev limited speed for the HX's CVT. Whereas the 5 speed won't max out till like 175 in 5th... (though it could never go that fast) Then again I could be wrong, I'll figure out if I can go past 112 sometime sooner or later.

I think on carpoint it says that the LX was Governed at 115...I'll check on that though.

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i got an ex 01 auto, and goin up I-4 (along with 3 girls in the car ) i hit 132mph. it took a little while to get there, but i did, i think i coulda gone faster, but i was fine with that. (had it on cruise)
Old Apr 21, 2003
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Well, after my friend just crashed his integra gsr turbo (with a lot of engine and suspension work), I stay away from high speeds in hondas. You see, the civic was made to go under its top speed, it can do it, but not too well. My friend with full coilover suspension, lighweight rims and brand new pirelli p7000 fliped at 160 in his turboed teg (t4). FWD is not made to go fast on highway, STAY AWAY. thrills kill.
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Originally posted by SilverStreakEX
i got an ex 01 auto, and goin up I-4 (along with 3 girls in the car ) i hit 132mph. it took a little while to get there, but i did, i think i coulda gone faster, but i was fine with that. (had it on cruise)
wow you had passengers going that fast? man, i wouldnt do that if i were you. i'd do it alone. i would rather not sacrifice the life of others if i ever were to crash. then their families would feel bad. but back to the topic, i always top out at 121 mph with my automatic. i have i/h/e. what do you have in order to go that fast?
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Originally posted by bublik
Well, after my friend just crashed his integra gsr turbo (with a lot of engine and suspension work), I stay away from high speeds in hondas. You see, the civic was made to go under its top speed, it can do it, but not too well. My friend with full coilover suspension, lighweight rims and brand new pirelli p7000 fliped at 160 in his turboed teg (t4). FWD is not made to go fast on highway, STAY AWAY. thrills kill.
130 (about as fast as our cars could ever go) and 160 are VERY different in terms of the amount of lift generated. His suspension mods wouldn've helped that much (unless he lowered his car till it was an inch off the ground, it's about the way the car is shaped. He should've gotten a HUGE WING and front diffuser, that might've helped. But I do agree, going fast is very dangerous, and should only be done alone, or with someone who is ready to die. One thing you should do before driving at high speeds is inflate your tires to 40-45 PSI, and make sure you don't push your luck by maintaining that speed, your tires will heat up and fly apart. (Stock ones) ANYWAY...

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for you people with D17's saying you are doing 130-150mph no way you dont have the GEARING nor do you have the power also i think you need to get your speedo calibrated.

Two the guy with the 150mph Si sorry buddy not gonna happen unless you have a new FD and 5th gear and some mods to pull you that high and on a stock b16a ecu forget it you would hit fuel cut before you got even close to 150

in my 00 si i hit 138mph and that took awhile and all i had was basic bolt ons

so the rest of you with your i went this fast storys can forget it.
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Originally posted by SuperNegro
for you people with D17's saying you are doing 130-150mph no way you dont have the GEARING nor do you have the power also i think you need to get your speedo calibrated.

Two the guy with the 150mph Si sorry buddy not gonna happen unless you have a new FD and 5th gear and some mods to pull you that high and on a stock b16a ecu forget it you would hit fuel cut before you got even close to 150

in my 00 si i hit 138mph and that took awhile and all i had was basic bolt ons

so the rest of you with your i went this fast storys can forget it.
he could have had the hondata ecu change that places the rev limiter at 10500 rpms and used fi. well that was just a lil guess
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Originally posted by Chrissy
he could have had the hondata ecu change that places the rev limiter at 10500 rpms and used fi. well that was just a lil guess
doesnt matter and setting your rev limit that high will do nothing but float valves if you dont have the valve train and cams dont even make power that high. stock b16 valve springs would send the valves into the pistons at 9k and once again he doesnt have the gearing.
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Originally posted by MikeyBoy
Here's my question for all of you......


Why do you believe what your speedometer is reading? Several tests have confirmed that speedometers are not dead-on acurate, especially as speed increases. One test I read a while back had a speedometer reading almost 20 MPH MORE than the car was travelling. So, I believe no one, unless you either have calibrated your speedometer, or have another source. (Radar / laser gun, for example)


Just my $.02

THANK YOU!!! u said everything i was about to say!
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They way to test your speedo, is really easy, just look at what speed your going and match it to the RPM that your car should be going at the speed. If they don't match then it's not calibrated properly, ALSO, you can just go 60 on the freeway, and time yourself for a minute and see if you go a mile. I do agree that speedo's vary at higher speeds, but I've never heard of such a large discrepency as 20MPH on the same size as stock tires. Usually it's less than 1% of your speed.

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all i know is my 01 lx does 115 then stops if i go any faster i feel the governer kick in an slow my car to 115 ive done this several times on the way home from work
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when my car was total stock i got to 127/130. 01 coupe EX m/t
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thats as fast as i could go


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Originally posted by Alex053
thats as fast as i could go


and maintenance req'd and SRS light on with high beams. youre in trouble. j/k
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Im not scared to top speed test in the middle of the nite ...lol No joke...i have 18k miles (maint req light) and had my seats out to run all my stereo stuff (srs light). at least my seat belt light isnt on. I was buckled up
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150mph??? dude's running on under-inflated tires...

i've only gone up to 180km/h.. but that took FOREVER to achieve... was so slow climbing up to that speed...maybe there was a head wind..
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Originally posted by astropunk
150mph??? dude's running on under-inflated tires...

i've only gone up to 180km/h.. but that took FOREVER to achieve... was so slow climbing up to that speed...maybe there was a head wind..
150 mph, puhleez! yeah or on jacks lmaolease: i have yet to see a 7th gen break even to the 140s. man i prolly dont even stand a chance making 125 while spraying a 75 even if i hit my top speed without the nitrous. and if i did, i would bust up something real bad and crash.
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maybe he meant 150 Kilometer per hour
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I got up to 110mph (01 EX MT) before the popo got me. (See other thread here...)



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