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Did you pick up the gasket from honda... I dont know if where the header bolts to the RT downpipe if you'll need that- but I'm thinking thats whats leaking.
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It's hard to explain, but the opening of the downpipe is fluted. Kinda like the end of a horn...
The bracket you see in the pic slides up and down...
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And the top of the downpipe meets the bottom of the header right here


there's no spot for a gasket that i can see, and it is just the thin metal rim from the downpipe opening touching the flat piece on the header you see there, and since it's fluted, its bigger than the actual opening (pipe diameter) The bracket bolts onto the header and kinda sandwiches them together.
Am I doing this wrong? I used everything they gave me. and it all fits well. Maybe i just need to get it welded or something.
The bracket you see in the pic slides up and down...
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[/IMG]And the top of the downpipe meets the bottom of the header right here


there's no spot for a gasket that i can see, and it is just the thin metal rim from the downpipe opening touching the flat piece on the header you see there, and since it's fluted, its bigger than the actual opening (pipe diameter) The bracket bolts onto the header and kinda sandwiches them together.
Am I doing this wrong? I used everything they gave me. and it all fits well. Maybe i just need to get it welded or something.
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That doesnt look like its a genuine honda part... its really close, but the material just looks way different.
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Ok, I brought it to my favorite muffler shop and they put a gasket between the downpipe and header (which should have been included with the header or downpipe..oh well) and they found another leak at another junction and fixed that. Also it doesn't rattle at all now
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Yeah, I thought you were missing the gasket. It doesnt come with the header, its a separate part.
So... is the header non honda OEM part? It looks close, but different.
Glad to see you got that exhaust on, sounds pretty good. Whats it sound like when you stomp on it, or were you? Do some drive by's
So... is the header non honda OEM part? It looks close, but different.
Glad to see you got that exhaust on, sounds pretty good. Whats it sound like when you stomp on it, or were you? Do some drive by's
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I got the header from majestic honda, so it's whatever they sell 
Here's my drive by video
Its super quiet in the car, but it sounds alot louder outside

Here's my drive by video
Its super quiet in the car, but it sounds alot louder outside
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Ask me your questions DX/LX header/exhaust questions!!!
This will be updated as information is needed.
First many people with DX/LX’s want to know what header will work.
First, the EX header wont bolt up to your existing stock exhaust. Second, you WILL loose your cat. Here are your header options if your cool with your peashooter exhaust and no cat:
Kamakazi – part number: ??
OBX – part number: 10-1602-3D
Will an EX header bolt up to the head of an DX/LX engine?
Yes, the bolt pattern on both the D17a1 (DX/LX) and D17a2 (EX) are the same.
Additional notes:
The DX/LX exhaust has spring loaded bolts that connect the end of the header to the rest of the exhaust system; these are kind of a pain in the butt to reach but they come off eventually.
This will be updated as information is needed.
First many people with DX/LX’s want to know what header will work.
First, the EX header wont bolt up to your existing stock exhaust. Second, you WILL loose your cat. Here are your header options if your cool with your peashooter exhaust and no cat:
Kamakazi – part number: ??
OBX – part number: 10-1602-3D
Will an EX header bolt up to the head of an DX/LX engine?
Yes, the bolt pattern on both the D17a1 (DX/LX) and D17a2 (EX) are the same.
Additional notes:
The DX/LX exhaust has spring loaded bolts that connect the end of the header to the rest of the exhaust system; these are kind of a pain in the butt to reach but they come off eventually.
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Pop your hood, locate your motor, from that locate your block. Facing the exhaust side of your motor, your block will be stamped in the top left with the type of motor it is.
Sounds pretty good man!
I got the header from majestic honda, so it's whatever they sell 
Here's my drive by video
CLICK ME
Its super quiet in the car, but it sounds alot louder outside

Here's my drive by video
CLICK MEIts super quiet in the car, but it sounds alot louder outside

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I looked, all i see is a block serial number engraved and a white sticker with a barcode. None of the numbers resemble d17a1 or 2.
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Hello All,
I know this is the "The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ" thread, but I could not find the answer to this simple conundrum..
I have a 1998 Civic DX sedan (4dr) 1.6L
With brand new DX header and catalytic convertor in place. How can I avoid putting on a OEM exhaust which rot out in about 5 minutes? I like the sporty Catback systems because they are stainless steel and would be better in NY where the salt the roads all the time.
I need to keep costs down and keep looking at Ebay but do not want to get stung buying something that does not fit.
The question is can it be done? If not I'll just buy the tin crap they sell at autoparts stores.
Thanks for your help!
Greg
I know this is the "The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ" thread, but I could not find the answer to this simple conundrum..
I have a 1998 Civic DX sedan (4dr) 1.6L
With brand new DX header and catalytic convertor in place. How can I avoid putting on a OEM exhaust which rot out in about 5 minutes? I like the sporty Catback systems because they are stainless steel and would be better in NY where the salt the roads all the time.
I need to keep costs down and keep looking at Ebay but do not want to get stung buying something that does not fit.
The question is can it be done? If not I'll just buy the tin crap they sell at autoparts stores.
Thanks for your help!
Greg
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www.vrsexhaust.com
You can pick up a 2.25" stainless tubing kit for like $150-175 bucks and then either you or a muffler shop can weld it up. Cheap, easy, quality. Can't beat that.
You can pick up a 2.25" stainless tubing kit for like $150-175 bucks and then either you or a muffler shop can weld it up. Cheap, easy, quality. Can't beat that.
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I have a 1998 LX and I was looking to put an OBX header, cat, and cat back on her
If I read all this right I apparently will have to weld the cat to the OBX header
If I'm going to do this, which OBX cat should I buy?
OBX offers two
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...5503QQtcZphoto
2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...8532QQtcZphoto
One uses the factory o2 sensor position and one doesn't
I'm assuming the cheaper one, the one that uses the factory o2 spot, is the one I need but I'm just checking
(I'm also assuming at 45 bucks that it is a test pipe and not a cat, but whatev. I don't live in California, so I think if I at least have the ILLUSION of a cat, I should be good)
thanks
If I read all this right I apparently will have to weld the cat to the OBX header
If I'm going to do this, which OBX cat should I buy?
OBX offers two
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...5503QQtcZphoto
2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...8532QQtcZphoto
One uses the factory o2 sensor position and one doesn't
I'm assuming the cheaper one, the one that uses the factory o2 spot, is the one I need but I'm just checking
(I'm also assuming at 45 bucks that it is a test pipe and not a cat, but whatev. I don't live in California, so I think if I at least have the ILLUSION of a cat, I should be good)
thanks
Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ
I have a 1998 LX and I was looking to put an OBX header, cat, and cat back on her
If I read all this right I apparently will have to weld the cat to the OBX header
If I'm going to do this, which OBX cat should I buy?
OBX offers two
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...5503QQtcZphoto
2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...8532QQtcZphoto
One uses the factory o2 sensor position and one doesn't
I'm assuming the cheaper one, the one that uses the factory o2 spot, is the one I need but I'm just checking
(I'm also assuming at 45 bucks that it is a test pipe and not a cat, but whatev. I don't live in California, so I think if I at least have the ILLUSION of a cat, I should be good)
thanks
If I read all this right I apparently will have to weld the cat to the OBX header
If I'm going to do this, which OBX cat should I buy?
OBX offers two
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...5503QQtcZphoto
2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...8532QQtcZphoto
One uses the factory o2 sensor position and one doesn't
I'm assuming the cheaper one, the one that uses the factory o2 spot, is the one I need but I'm just checking
(I'm also assuming at 45 bucks that it is a test pipe and not a cat, but whatev. I don't live in California, so I think if I at least have the ILLUSION of a cat, I should be good)
thanks
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hey triz will this work ex header, ex downpipe and evo2 exhaust system? Do I still need catalytic converter? And I was also wondering how much hp and tq it put out with that kind of set up?
Thanks
Thanks
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I have a 1998 LX and I was looking to put an OBX header, cat, and cat back on her
If I read all this right I apparently will have to weld the cat to the OBX header
If I'm going to do this, which OBX cat should I buy?
OBX offers two
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...5503QQtcZphoto
2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...8532QQtcZphoto
One uses the factory o2 sensor position and one doesn't
I'm assuming the cheaper one, the one that uses the factory o2 spot, is the one I need but I'm just checking
(I'm also assuming at 45 bucks that it is a test pipe and not a cat, but whatev. I don't live in California, so I think if I at least have the ILLUSION of a cat, I should be good)
thanks
If I read all this right I apparently will have to weld the cat to the OBX header
If I'm going to do this, which OBX cat should I buy?
OBX offers two
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...5503QQtcZphoto
2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...8532QQtcZphoto
One uses the factory o2 sensor position and one doesn't
I'm assuming the cheaper one, the one that uses the factory o2 spot, is the one I need but I'm just checking
(I'm also assuming at 45 bucks that it is a test pipe and not a cat, but whatev. I don't live in California, so I think if I at least have the ILLUSION of a cat, I should be good)
thanks
I dont trust ebay listings. There are two types of cat's- ones that are universal and need to be welded in, and others that are already in the pipe that will bolt up to your system. The later is easier, but if you got pipe skills and got a welder then either one is a good pick if you think you can do quality work.
I'm not famil with the 6th gens, let me get that out there now. The concepts are the same:
If you want to do a head back exhaust then order an ex header, and ex downpipe, and an ex catback. If you want to do an ex cat back then you'll need to have an ex header and down pipe. if you just want a muffler, then just pick up an axle back muffler and bolt it on, or have it welded, depending on the muffler- pick up the kind that bolt on instead of the kind you have to weld one- its just easier and you can convert back to stock without re welding.
The issue of the O2 sensors... stick with the LX ones and just buy extention cables, links are in the first post. If you pick up the EX ones, you'll have to cut the connectors and solder them together because you cant join too females or two males with eachother.
Hope that helps. *crosses fingers this only posts once the first time*
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In reality probably 1 to 3 hp
. Pretty impressive hunh. No bolt-on is gonna give you any significant power increase on your civic. Try just driving like a tool every now and then and pretend it's fast, that's what I do.
. Pretty impressive hunh. No bolt-on is gonna give you any significant power increase on your civic. Try just driving like a tool every now and then and pretend it's fast, that's what I do. Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ
Your going to want a cat, without it you'll smell your exhaust whenever you have your windows open... it gets really annoying actually, and your exhaust is much louder then you'll want it- you'll turn the wrong heads, and its illegal to run without one, so you'll have to figure something out when it comes to emissions times.
I dont trust ebay listings. There are two types of cat's- ones that are universal and need to be welded in, and others that are already in the pipe that will bolt up to your system. The later is easier, but if you got pipe skills and got a welder then either one is a good pick if you think you can do quality work.
I'm not famil with the 6th gens, let me get that out there now. The concepts are the same:
If you want to do a head back exhaust then order an ex header, and ex downpipe, and an ex catback. If you want to do an ex cat back then you'll need to have an ex header and down pipe. if you just want a muffler, then just pick up an axle back muffler and bolt it on, or have it welded, depending on the muffler- pick up the kind that bolt on instead of the kind you have to weld one- its just easier and you can convert back to stock without re welding.
The issue of the O2 sensors... stick with the LX ones and just buy extention cables, links are in the first post. If you pick up the EX ones, you'll have to cut the connectors and solder them together because you cant join too females or two males with eachother.
Hope that helps. *crosses fingers this only posts once the first time*
I dont trust ebay listings. There are two types of cat's- ones that are universal and need to be welded in, and others that are already in the pipe that will bolt up to your system. The later is easier, but if you got pipe skills and got a welder then either one is a good pick if you think you can do quality work.
I'm not famil with the 6th gens, let me get that out there now. The concepts are the same:
If you want to do a head back exhaust then order an ex header, and ex downpipe, and an ex catback. If you want to do an ex cat back then you'll need to have an ex header and down pipe. if you just want a muffler, then just pick up an axle back muffler and bolt it on, or have it welded, depending on the muffler- pick up the kind that bolt on instead of the kind you have to weld one- its just easier and you can convert back to stock without re welding.
The issue of the O2 sensors... stick with the LX ones and just buy extention cables, links are in the first post. If you pick up the EX ones, you'll have to cut the connectors and solder them together because you cant join too females or two males with eachother.
Hope that helps. *crosses fingers this only posts once the first time*
Yeah, I most certainly don't have pipe skills, let alone many car skills.
I appreciate the help
OK, so I want to do a header back. So you say I should get an EX head, EX downpipe and EX catback. By that I'm assuming you mean OEM EX head, downpipe and catback. That sounds good, but would getting the OBX header, some kind of cat that I can have a muffler shop weld to it and the OBX catback work as well?
Would the OBX head/cat line up with the rest of the exhaust nicely I guess is my main concern
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It looks like both the OBX cats are the bolt-in type
So I put the OBX head on, bolt the cat to it, get the o2 sensor extenders (they'res an o2 sensor before and after the cat, correct me if I'm wrong) and then figure something out to piece between the cat and the cat back and I'm golden....right?
*crosses fingers*
So I put the OBX head on, bolt the cat to it, get the o2 sensor extenders (they'res an o2 sensor before and after the cat, correct me if I'm wrong) and then figure something out to piece between the cat and the cat back and I'm golden....right?
*crosses fingers*
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You keep saying "ex head" Your ex head and lx head and dx head all have the same bolt pattern, so you dont need to change the head to change the manifold that bolts to it. I think your also getting the parts mixed up a little- you cant weld a cat onto a header... well, I guess you could, but that would just be stupid and it would probably be an inch from the pavement so you couldnt run a cat back. Here is how the parts go:
Engine Head> header (exhaust manifold)> Downpipe with cat converter in it (this is one piece of pipe with flanges on either side and the cat in the center [if you cant get a hold of an OEM downpipe with cat, get the Random Tech pipe, OR get a test pipe and a universal weld-in cat], then your cat back exhaust system.
Engine Head> header (exhaust manifold)> Downpipe with cat converter in it (this is one piece of pipe with flanges on either side and the cat in the center [if you cant get a hold of an OEM downpipe with cat, get the Random Tech pipe, OR get a test pipe and a universal weld-in cat], then your cat back exhaust system.


