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Old Oct 11, 2008
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

hey triz i went to summit today and they told me the pacesetter one wont fit an 05. looks like i gotta fork out 300 for the random tech one.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

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^^ I heard that taping wire is not good for the O2 sensors since they are so senstive to voltage.
A minior change of voltage might cause CEL.

But i have no experience...anyone comfrim that?
You're not taping. You're cutting, soldering and covering the soldered part with heat shrink tubing. As long as you use close to the same gauge wire as the current sensors, you won't change the resistance on the circuit and it won't mess up the wires. It's people who cut, splice, twist together and tape the connections that run into problems because of the corrosion that develops from a crappy job. Do it properly and there won't be a problem.

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hey triz i went to summit today and they told me the pacesetter one wont fit an 05. looks like i gotta fork out 300 for the random tech one.
This is dumb and a waste of money. Just buy the cat and the tubing like I posted earlier and get someone to weld it up.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

There is still a possobility of the soldering could change the resistance because it is passing through another metal, instead of the same strands of a continuous piece of copper wire. Will you most likely be able to run this setup problem free- yes. It comes down to if you have money to buy the right part, or if your a little tight on cash and wanna get the job done now and as cheap as possible.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

Sigh....
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

ill stick with the direct fit. i dont wanna have to go around and find a welder. its a waste of my time and i've waited long enough to get this exhaust put on.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

I ordered the random tech cat from dezod and they sent me an email that said it would be back ordered for 2 weeks......be warned u wont get it quick
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

http://www.advancedjdmparts.com/prod...cat=323&page=1
triz i think i found another one. check it out for me and let me know cause this is much cheaper than the random tech.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

thx foos and triz.

And foos....no need to "sigh". You both have your points. I think it comes to personal preference on how it was done.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

It's a matter of putting out incorrect information, not a matter of personal preference. This is why most of the technically oriented folks have left this site.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

are there any direct fit cats out there that don't cost an arm and a leg?
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

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It's a matter of putting out incorrect information, not a matter of personal preference. This is why most of the technically oriented folks have left this site.
Its very possible changing the metal the current travels through affects the current itself. Will soldering wires together work- yes, do you have the potential for more issues down the line then buying factory like cables- yes. Thats all.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

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http://www.advancedjdmparts.com/prod...cat=323&page=1
triz i think i found another one. check it out for me and let me know cause this is much cheaper than the random tech.
I've never seen this before. It looks sketchy- even the image isn't for our application. The fact is you can use any catalytic converter, you just need to make it fit. The reason they cost so much is because they have high price metals in them, yet there are other alternatives out there then platinum that are used- cheaper catalysts equal cheaper cats.

I pulled this from wikipedia for you on cats:
The catalyst itself is most often a precious metal. Platinum is the most active catalyst and is widely used. However, it is not suitable for all applications because of unwanted additional reactions and/or cost. Palladium and rhodium are two other precious metals that are used. Platinum and rhodium are used as a reduction catalyst, while platinum and palladium are used as an oxidization catalyst. Cerium, iron, manganese and nickel are also used, though each has its own limitations. Nickel is not legal for use in the European Union (due to reaction with carbon monoxide). While copper can be used, its use is illegal in North America due to the formation of dioxin.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

thanks triz.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

ya, i have a EX but its a bitch finding someone to custom make me a down pipe... where do u get the bung to put in an o2 sensor???

noone wants to do anything other than cut from the o2 sensor and below... lol, so basically i will still be bottle necked!!!
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

i have everything finally as of today. i found a guy that said he'd do it so im droppin it off saturday and ill find out later that day how it went. will write with update.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

ebay also has catalytic converter down pipes, yes NOT resonator pipes but they are intended for direct replacement i believe.
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^ link?
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

FAQ has been updated.

I found O2 sensors here as well: http://passwordjdm.com/PasswordJDM-O...P1767C364.aspx
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

^ I can't tell if that kit includes both. I will have a link for the cat after psychology
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

Links for catalytic converter down pipes. All are new and direct replacement. One company is in Canada so it is listed as ex/si downpipe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA...mZ180266481480
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...ayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...mZ320301247964
2kracing also has DCsports 02 extension cables a 30" and a 10.5" for around $35 for both cables
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

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Links for catalytic converter down pipes. All are new and direct replacement. One company is in Canada so it is listed as ex/si downpipe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/HONDA...mZ180266481480
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...ayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Honda...mZ320301247964

All three look like they would work.

1- does not have mandrel bends, and that ridged tubbing will restrict the flow in the downpipe.

2- not a lot of info

3- not a lot of info- uses lots of disposable email accounts- gmail and aol, could take you money and never ship.

But all sellers have good feedback.

I dunno.. I'd wanna go with the RT downpipe even though its a little more pricey. For cheap replacements these would work, but they wont be the most awesome downpipes ever, you could have problems with the welds, or with the catalyst, or any number of things... never heard of ppl having issues with Random Tech pipes and cats.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

yea RT is solid but alot of guys have been complaining about the cost of staying legal so i posted alternatives. I'm goin with the megan pipe. I picked a new one up for $50. Now im stuck between an espelir exhaust or going to to this specialty mandrel bent exhaust place in kc, they do really good work. I just can't decide plus I'm broke right now.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

hey triz. finally gave in and drove up to summit today to return the exhaust i bought. instead i bought the high flow, all the piping, and all the flanges and gaskets. My mechanic is puttin everything on saturday. thanks again for the original post.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

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ill stick with the direct fit. i dont wanna have to go around and find a welder. its a waste of my time and i've waited long enough to get this exhaust put on.

Originally Posted by amishman22
hey triz. finally gave in and drove up to summit today to return the exhaust i bought. instead i bought the high flow, all the piping, and all the flanges and gaskets. My mechanic is puttin everything on saturday. thanks again for the original post.

You're welcome.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

ur a good member foos.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

hey just a heads up to everyone, casperselectronics.com is kinda shady cause i bought my o2 extenders from them on the 8th and they have yet to arrive. its pissin me off cause thats all im waiting on to finally put this bitch on.
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They are reputable, I got mine in a week. Sorry you haven't got them yet, have you called them?
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They were super profesional when I ordered and they got to me in a resonable amount of time. Keep in mind the weekend that was when you ordered- they might not have gotten your order out yet if they were backed up, and if thats so- it woulda gone out monday, just 4 days ago. It'll come.
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Re: The ultimate DX/LX header/exhaust FAQ

i hope so because i ordered them on a wednesday which means today makes one week and three days and they're still not here. im calling them monday. i expect free shipping or something for waiting so long.
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I think your overreacting.
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