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Head isn't getting installed this week because the shop is still busy.

 
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So u said the N/A guy didn't see much of anything? That's not good, but I guess I will be finding out with a Dyno. I order mine next week!!! WOOT WOOT!

Did u get a turbo pnp or n/a?

 
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Riceburner told me his turbo ports were bigger, so I'm assuming mine's NA. I don't even know if Josh sent the right one. I'll just get it on and hope it works.

 
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Josh told me...."I will be picking up a non-vtec engine soon, so I will be able to have your head out soon." Does this mean that he's never had another one? Is that what the other guy had?

 
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Yeah, civicstreetrcr had non-vtec. Here's what he said.

 
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well Josh did say that an SAFC/VAFC was necessary when putting this stuff on....what's the pointing of letting all the extra airflow in if your not mixing the fuel with it.

Anyways, Late June I will probably have it dyno tuned and all, i know it sounds long, but atleast we can put me and you side by side to see what kind of gains we get. And also....did the guy have intake? header?

 
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I also think my gains will be a lot more sufficient with my I/H/E Intake Mani/TB and SAFCII....goodness I hope this all works out.

 
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He has only the head and kamikaze header I believe. Josh said 30+hp at the wheels just from the head at first. I think then he started realizing that was totally wrong. So it went down to 20hp, and now he says you need fuel regulator to make it work right. Well, I guess we just have to wait and see.

 
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Bahh the anxiety will kill me.

 
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Out of the frying pan, into the fire.

I'll be waiting for your results...

d'oh!!!!

Looks like I'll have to have the VAFC installed before I even consider getting a new head as opposed to porting mine myself.

 
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You wont see a big difference in the non-vtec to vtec. Maybe a couple of horses, but not many more. What you will see different is when its tuned with the vafc. It will sense that more fuel is needed to account for the more air in the head. Hope everything goes well for you. Would be nice to see a n/a car dyno.

Side note: If you are still not sure if its a vtec head or not, go to honda and talk to them. I'm sure they can fegure it out.

 
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Yup yup yup, SAFC rules

 
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Well I think my car runs rich already, so maybe that will help. I just don't want any engine problems like Melissa had.

 
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just make sure your mechanic blows out all the oil passages with compressed air, to make sure they are clean.

I have the head on my car ( no problems) and I believe it to be about a 10-15 hp difference.
I'll be getting my vafc2 dyno tuned in 2 weeks.

 
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^^^Well atleast that is one person who is not being screwed....


What I find interesting is that Josh hasn't posted on here in weeks...wtf is up with that...hmmm, that concerns me...i haven't spent any money with them, but a lot of you have...is Josh even in contact with anyone???

 
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Well Josh promised 30+whp on stock motor. And that's not gonna happen. He and his company are finished here. I started posting up facts about the pulley and how bad it is, and he got scared away.

This is what he thinks about his customers:

 
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Well if you go after every after market company that claims great results you better start at the top with Greddy and AEM..

My Greddy EVO catback did not get 15hp
My AEM airintake did not get 15hp
My HP headers did not get 15hp
My RVM pulley did not give me 15hp.

But a good PnP head w/ cam tuned right will give 30hp. Dh and SF did post dyno results on that. Actually too good. SF blew his pressure plate apart on the line. That on stock internals.
So wait untill you dyno tune and actuallt install your head before slandering a company.

 
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This should be sent to the BBB. I lost horse power and each part claimed at least 15hp. Stock hp for EX is 130hp. I dyno'd after all my bolt ons at 96hp. I posted it back then. I know some poeple remember.

This is just part of the game. On the right engine, with the right mods, with perfect tuning you might get half the hp of what all these major companies sell.

It is not just KMS and DH. Post results on any exhaust or air intake. You will see.

 
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Me and Josh have been talking by PM and by phone...I just think he's staying away from these threads because the bashing has gone to far, and anybody who is still serious about it will PM him or call him.

 
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Those who ordered head work need to get it installed and send back the core. That was part of the deal.

You are actually screwing over other 7thgencivic members by not sending in the core. There are people of have paid for head work and waiting in line. We are not getting our stuff done because of in part you not standing up to your end of the deal. So I see members here screwing up others members projects just because they hate DH. Thats not right. I want my head.

So someone with a VTEC head send in your core. Or if you dont want to install it and hate Dh send me your head. There are still people on the waiting list who do want the head.

 
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Our issues aren't with Greddy or AEM becuase they aren't vendors on this site. The issue here is that DD Racing described the pulley installation as a 5 minute job and that it was dyno proven to give 20 whp. There is a big difference from speculation and misleading customers. When Josh told anyone buying the PnP head that they could expect 30+ whp, he was estimating....who cares...therefore, you should get AROUND 30. When he says proven to give 20 whp....We would like to see his proof. This has been the issue from the start. When he says that the install takes 5 minutes and leads us to believe that a monkey could do it with a hammer and a banana, and he is dead f*cking wrong, the customers he mislead diserve a refund. That has been the issue from the start and that I is why I give a f*ck about a company that I didn't waste my money with.

No matter how many times Guns criticizes us for not "rolling up our sleeves" and doing it ourselves....this is not the matter at hand. However, to comment on that, some of us have to drive our cars everyday and would rather spend the cash to have someone who is experienced with our engine work on our engine. If we get our hands dirty and roll oru sleeves up and royally F*CK our engine up, than we will have ourselves to blame and no ride to work/school/etc. Back to the issue: Josh and his site is misleading. It leads his customers to believe that the install is easy and the install will instantly produce 20 whp.....what really matters is that like 3 out of 20 can successfully install the pulley when we were ALL SUPPOST to be able to do it in 5 minutes.

You rolled your sleeves up and got your hands dirty by performing which installation?

Your SF turbo? There's a DIY for that dipshit....
Your Exhaust/Header/etc. -- There are DIYs for most likely every mod on your car.
Your pulley? Whooptie ****...it's not made by DH, maybe it actually F*CKING fit like it was suppost to.

So what exactly is your argument again, because all I see is your nose up DH's ***. Which makes sense because he hasn't f*cked you over.....YET.

I'm sure he'll send you a nice PnP head full of metal shavings....luckily someone has been the guinea pig for you and has allready forgotten to look for the shavings and it costed her $1000 to fix.....an extra grand due to DH's neglegance.....thats almost 200% in extra costs that should have been avoided.

But hey, Josh can prove that he had it tanked....the tanking wasn't effective..but it was tanked.....get off of your high horse and look at the facts.

 
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Venders here do sell products that claim HP. Look at any I/H/E setup. You might get 5hp. All these major companies make money on our hopes of 15hp for each item. Hell with I/H/E most members should have 150+hp if you went by what these big companies say. They are making money on us. The venders who sell their stuff make money. A couple of small companies did exactly what these big companies do and they are being run off for doing it. Wasnt a member ripped of by Venom on some injectors bought from a vender here. Wow then we should ban that vender too.

 
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SF kit: I was not sent all my part on the SF kit. If you have done the install there was alot left out.

Headers: Good luck on the rusted up bolts on the down pipe side.

Head Gasket at my apartment: I love the guys who work on my car. But I am not paying $400 for a 3hour job. I had no idea what I was doing and I did it in 6hours.

There is something called books shop manuels. Go buy one and read.

You are just pist that you jumped on the bandwagon and thought you would get an easy 30hp from a pulley.

 
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That was NOT part of the deal. The group buy title I believe was, DH ported head, NO CORE. The only thing mentioned was $100 back IF you send back the core. I never agreed to send mine back.

On the same note, I do realize there are other members here who are waiting just as I already have. And you're right. It's not fair. When my head is hopefully installed next week, and I verify that it works properly, I will send my old head back to them. I'm doing this ONLY to be fair to other members.

 
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In all honesty good luck. As soon as you can send in the head. I am waiting on a VTEC head. Be sure to use your VAFC2 and put it on a dyno. You can adjust the fuel yourself. No need to pay a tuner $150+. For $50 I did mine on a local dyno. Just play with adding fuel if you are lean. You can look at the wideband on the dyno and your power curve to add or take away fuel.

 
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Hopefully next week everything will be installed. Tuning is a problem, since there are no dyno places where I live. I'll have to drive a few hours at least to find one. Glad to see your SF turbo is making good power.

 
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Hopefully everything goes well for you.

 
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All vendors are subject to the vendor disclaimer. If they violate that disclaimer, they get banned. Dh has violated it, DH should be banned. EVERY vendor is subject to that disclaimor and if you can build a case against any other vendor than feel free to do so. The well known venders on this site (Paul from Dezod, Eddie from HondaWerx, Rob from Robear) do not make empty claims to sell their parts and are not therefore at any risk of being banned from this site. They bust their *** to make sure they are giving us the correct information about what they sell and refund clients who aren't happy. They maintain a good reputation and for a good reason. DH does not....75% on the poll reflects this.

Jumped on the bandwagon? Do your research son. I have been skeptical of DH from the beginning when I listened to you criticize Dober for not running a dangerous PSI on his stock internals. I considered wasting my money on the pulley but required more information before I did so. Now that I realize how DH is treating 7thgeners, I am offended and, let's get this straight...I am not in the bandwagon, I am one of the few that is leading the bandwagon. Let's just recognize that there would not be a bandwagon if DH did business like they should....plain and simple.

SF Kit - http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...=DIY+turbo+kit

Header - http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/sh...IY+head+gasket

Head Gasket - Congradulations, you get a cookie my friend. You boldly went where no DIY directed you and such action definately diserves to be commended. Did the Head Gasket fit?

Yes? Thats what I thought....while your install is commendable, it is irrelevent.

It's funny how your attitude changes from "I wish I hadn't done this install" and "Pay a speedshop to do it, I wish I had" to "I did these installs, everyone should do them themselves JUST like I did.... I

Once again, You don't see AEM/Greddy on here saying that their products will yield 20 whp dyno proven....and that is all that matters. Operating on the "Other people have done it before so it's okay" principle is b*llshit.

You have no argument Guns.

 
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This is getting beyond lame. No one gives a **** about the pulley in this thread.

There was a dyno proven 20 hp gain on the single groove pulley on an ITR. He NEVER said what the dual groove would yeild on our cars...in fact, he guessed somewhere around 10ish.

Anyways, back on topic. For those people that are holding out on these ****ing heads, they need to get them sent in. Maybe a months wait is good to get the money to insatll it or what not, but to hold onto because u hate DH that's ****ed up! I know Gearbox plans on insatlling his...but the other people are really ****ing the other members over.

Thank god, I have a non-vtec because he just got another one in.

 
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Yeah I'm trying as fast as possible to get it on. My appointment was last Tuesday, but the shop keeps postponing it because of parts for another car that haven't come in. I'm hoping for sure this week and I'll send the vtec head back afterwards. I won't screw other 7thgen members who already ordered port work. Believe me, I waited a few months for mine.