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Old May 15, 2005
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hmm so the bypass doesn't do anything then? If the solenoid just shuts off coolant flow...but I could feel the tb being alot cooler after the mod. Idk??
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I def felt a difference from doing thismod, maybe it might just be in my head, but my car seemed to run A LOT smoother by doing this. I think it def did something...
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yea it def felt alot cooler after this mod. Even though the solenoid shuts off the flow of coolant, the throttle body still gets considerably hot. Blocking off the coolant from ever entering the throttle body heater you are eliminating this all together.
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If you're gonna do this definitely get someon with small hands so you can just do the two engine connections with a single 1/4" hose. I don't think you should do it any other way in case of leakage, corrosion, or melting. You never know what might happen...
Old May 16, 2005
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i have small hands, there's just no way to get pliars in to squeeze the clamp. ?
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I just took the in part to the TB and connected it to where the hose connects to the back of the mtoor. It was a pain to get it to go down there, but I have very skinny hands. So there is the one hose, and I put another hose that I cut down to size (extra hose from profec-b), and threw it on the TB. I am not sure if it made any difference, cuz we did it at the same time as the turbo install. Car does start up very nicely though.
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I used on of those plastic connections from the windshield wiper fluid hoses. I found it at pepboys. No leaks.
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Originally Posted by fullgrown
i've used a plastic splice, and it's awsome. there's no melting. but you have to cut the ends so there's a better flow of coolant.

this is what i got. a universal vacuum connector.
Ditto. I just drove a 800 mile round trip with no problems.

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Originally Posted by gearbox
i have small hands, there's just no way to get pliars in to squeeze the clamp. ?
I used small needle nose pliers.
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Originally Posted by masarak
I used small needle nose pliers.
Same here. A nice long pair of needle nose did the job.
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i got a piece of solid tube break line. i had to bend it into shape myself, but it was so long, like 6", that it goes far enough into the tube that even without the clamps, there is no worry of leaking or it comin off.
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hmm I guess I'll go with a plastic tube when I try it again.
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I tried to use pliers and it helped a little. I finally just used my finger to spin the clamp until it finally worked it's way down the hose. It was a real pain in the ***, but I was determined to get it done.
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You need some really long ones, like foot long or more...
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i couldn't even see the other hose. is it like right next to the oil filter????
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Originally Posted by fullgrown
i couldn't even see the other hose. is it like right next to the oil filter????
It's pretty far under there... Did you follow it down with a flashlight? It's underneath some wires and 2 other small hoses i think...
Old May 18, 2005
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Originally Posted by DaddyFatSacks

Let me ask you this? I did the mod about a week ago and I still notice my intake is hot even though it's still a bit cold here. Do you think it's the hot oil vapors coming out of the valve cover breather. I've searched on this topic and found all different answers. What do you guys think, cap the intake and put on a dump tibe or breather? It's hot right by the bend above the TB on the AEM sri.
To clear this up, air moves from the intake INTO the crankcase through that hose. So actually air is being sucked from the intake tract into the case. Which brings up another point about how air flow is affected. If you just cap it, there will still be a spot for dead air to collect in the pipe cause it's not straight on the inside. Anyone have an answer?

Also I ordered a K&N typhoon short ram so I'm thinking about doing something. A breather filter on the crankcase will work, but you won't pass smog like that.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
To clear this up, air moves from the intake INTO the crankcase through that hose. So actually air is being sucked from the intake tract into the case. Which brings up another point about how air flow is affected. If you just cap it, there will still be a spot for dead air to collect in the pipe cause it's not straight on the inside. Anyone have an answer?

Also I ordered a K&N typhoon short ram so I'm thinking about doing something. A breather filter on the crankcase will work, but you won't pass smog like that.
Wasn't there talk of using those mini cone filters What do those do anyway?
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well they're breather filters. I might be getting one to try out, so I'll post pics. The thing is...it's not a question of heat, just extra air being pulled from the intake. Air that should be going all into the tb.
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Well, you could just run a hose or pipe from your intake into the part where it takes air in, and just leave the part where the air goes out uncovered. You don't have to worry about the part where the air goes out getting dirt or dust in it because it will be blowing anyway. This is just an idea though. I don't know if it will actually work.
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I got a nice section of hose and a K&N breather (even came with a cap for a stock GN that perfectly cover the nip on my AEM sri.) from my friend who owns a Grand National shop, i'm not even kidding, he had like 10 kinda of breather filters. I got a small aluminum one with about 3' of hose.
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So what would happen if a breather fiter is put on on the valve cover and then the filter box is plugged? Anything?
Old May 22, 2005
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you won't get air being sucked away from the intake and into the crankcase. Btw I redid mine with plastic connector and so far its okay. I need to fix stuff tho once the intake comes in and maybe trim the hose a bit.
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ok I got rid of the brass barb, which did in fact look like it had a bit of corrosion on the outside of the hose. I just made it one continous hose using the longer piece. Perfect length. Kinda tricky but got the job done with some long needle nose pliers. Lost a bit of fluid too. LOL When I first seperated the two hoses nothing came out then I pulled the short tricky one off and it started spraying. LOL So I quickly slid the other hose on there and stopped it. Pulled the metal hose clip down with the pliers pinching it open and slid it into place with my fingers. Easy, just a little tricky due to being in a tight spot.
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Originally Posted by gearbox
you won't get air being sucked away from the intake and into the crankcase. Btw I redid mine with plastic connector and so far its okay. I need to fix stuff tho once the intake comes in and maybe trim the hose a bit.
same here. I did it today and used a 3/8" plastic hose connector from an auto parts store. No leaks and it seems to be holding up well. It's a fairly hard and durable plastic so i don't think there should be any problems.
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okay well I did mine. Ended up cutting a bit of the stock hose to make everything fit. I checked the plastic connector and no signs of melting. So it works. I just gotta add some coolant and get the bubbles out.
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i used a smaller tube than the hose diameter. Would that matter at all?
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When i tried that method of getting bubbles out of the coolant, the coolant level in the radiator rose till it started spilling over (as the engine warmed up) so I stopped. This all happened within minutes so I never let it run for nearly 10 mins.
Does that mean I don't have any bubbles or what do you guys recommend?
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haha yea that's supposed to happen. Okay here's a quick diy.

1. When car is COLD, open radiator cap.

2. Turn on car and hold the gas around 2k rpms until the needle says the temp is normal.

3. Turn on the a/c full blast on cold setting and close the door.

4. Watch if any bubbles come up from the coolant in the radiator. This may take only a few minutes or less. Basically keep the a/c going until you no longer see bubbles popping on the surface.

5. If coolant starts to overflow, have a papertowel handy or just let it drip.

6. Turn off the car and wait for the coolant to drop about an inch or so before tightening the cap.
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I'm having some problems now. The rpms are fluctuating when I'm driving slow before engine gets warmed up. It would start shaking with rpms going up/down for a few secs. It goes away when warm. So maybe its the solenoid sensor? Can we unplug it?



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