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Old Jul 24, 2003
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Still have problems during idle. Idles rough at 800 rpm with the AC on but it takes off o.k. With the AC off it idles better but stalls when you take off.
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What's the lowest RPM that you can tune the fuel curve on the AFC?
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1000 i think...
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it if is 1000, then i makes sense that the car doesnt idle correctly with the bigger injectors, and dies when you try to go.

With the AC on, there is more air getting sucked into the engine. So maybe it is just running that rich to where it wont die with that extra fuel.

Just a thought.
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^^^ That's what I was trying to get at.
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Originally posted by n318z
Sorry for the wait everyone I've been on vacation. These are the new dyno numbers.
My car is now running 4 rc 440 injectors in place of stock, Apexi AFC, and no additional injectors.
this tune is so much better than the previous one. The car doesn't like 12.5 a/f? why only 12?
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Old Aug 8, 2003
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This is what the tune shop tuned it to. They didn't have a scan tool to read knock so they stayed with the 12 afr.
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get J&S safeguard, and get it tuned again. Please let me know what good a/f is for the whole range. So, how do you like Turbo Discount so far?

Looking at your dyno, it is time for you to get a bigger exhaust. make that flatline an incline.

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Originally posted by wenlyone
get J&S safeguard, and get it tuned again. Please let me know what good a/f is for the whole range. So, how do you like Turbo Discount so far?

Looking at your dyno, it is time for you to get a bigger exhaust. make that flatline an incline.
Ordered the Sfpower kit and will installing soon.
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ah? you are getting rid of the Discount Turbo?
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ah? you are getting rid of the Discount Turbo?
Yes I am
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how come? what is your reason?
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Old Aug 8, 2003
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I've heard that these guys told someone they would be able to run 6 lbs with no fuel mods whatsoever
If that's what they think, I seriously doubt that they know much about developing a high powered turbo setup.
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Originally posted by wenlyone
how come? what is your reason?
I have continued to have problems with the kit.
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what is the problem?
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Old Aug 8, 2003
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Sucks the kit didn't work out. Are you able to return it?
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doubtful with everything he has had to do. Sorry to hear your ride was still having troubles man. Im sure the SF kit will be the best way for you.
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Ok - what's the deal with the kit? Reading through the posts it seems as if you had the extreme kit, had problems with it. THAN removed the TD fuel kit, added bigger injectors and VFAC. Still did not get things to work right or what?

I find it rather disturbing the amount of people here giving up on kits - most just require a proper fuel setup and tuning. TD's fuel setup appears similar to ERL's FM2 extra injector controller - I don't see why it doesn't work. SF's fuel setup requires no tuning, since it just adjusts itself based on boost (although some question how long the injectors will last at the higher PSI). Max-rev uses the FM2, which for purposes of less than 13 PSI of boost is said to work well (you can dial in fuel curves for the extra injector at 1000 RPM intervals from 2k to 9k I believe).

On the other hand, I agree with the fact that the kits should work as stated. Its really frustrating when I keep reading about how the turbo kits out there are having problems, I wish that the companies releasing them did more R&D (which it is blatently obvious SFpower did).

This just makes me want to hold onto my hard earned cash for another year and see what developes - $hit, things can only get better with more time.
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Well i was leaning more to TD because of the fuel setup but having a headache sucks and i think im going to go with the SF power kit... i will be getting mine in like 4 months...
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look.... the SF kit works the same as an FMU on return line cars. Audi and Volvo have been using an FMU type fuel system for years. I have seen a stock audi turbo with 300,000 miles on the stock engine. That type of system works. We have a CRX with an FMU system on it with the stock injectors, he has 20,000 miles on it with the turbo @ 10 psi, and he car still runs.

the SF system does not put any load on the injectors that they cannot handle. The injectors have been the same in honda's for years, and they can hadle the pressure (literally)
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Cat - not saying I was the one who said it - just stating for the record that it was said......I think its cool what Mike came up with.....
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Originally posted by opto_isolator
Ok - what's the deal with the kit? Reading through the posts it seems as if you had the extreme kit, had problems with it. THAN removed the TD fuel kit, added bigger injectors and VFAC. Still did not get things to work right or what?
Yes I had the extreme kit and had it wideband tuned. The FMU wouldn't setup the way I or the tuner wanted (still running too lean). So bigger injectors and S-AFC. Problems now are stalling at traffic lights, CEL, and turbo still leaking oil.
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Really? That sucks! So you tried tuning with their controller and it wouldn't tune properly? I wonder if the FM2 would work as a replacement (since the turbo doesn't spool up until after 2k rpms anyways, which is where the FM2 kicks in). The car should idle properly since you woudn't be touching the stock amount injected. Did you call them and see what they said? What do you plan on doing with the kit?
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Originally posted by opto_isolator
What do you plan on doing with the kit?
I've sold it and I'm awaiting the Sfpower kit
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Care to drop any names as to who bought it from you? Was it a 7th gen member? Just curious...
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Old Aug 12, 2003
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Care to drop any names as to who bought it from you? Was it a 7th gen member? Just curious...
He is not a member just a friend of friend.
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dat sux to be that friend of a friend...i'm assuming he doesn't know what happed to you..
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