Well, the poll is in! 350+whp inside
Re: Well, the poll is in! 350+whp inside
Load based dynos normally read lower than inertia by as much as 10-15%.
I would bet if they hit a Dynojet brand dyno they would have higher numbers. That is why everybody likes them so much.
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I would bet if they hit a Dynojet brand dyno they would have higher numbers. That is why everybody likes them so much.
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Re: Well, the poll is in! 350+whp inside
No man, I wasn't suggesting the numbers are fudged. But what I was saying is, in general, load bearing dynos typically produce about an extra 40 whp than a non load bearing. I just talked with a friend of mine who's a tuner and he told me that there is one model that dynomite makes that is supposedly a "simulated" load bearing dyno. Not sure what that means exactly or if TE even uses that model. Just something I was thinking about.
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Re: Well, the poll is in! 350+whp inside
IDK Andy, they tuned my car at 202ish at about 5.5psi with that dyno then I took it to 2 other dynos that read about 212 in about the same temp humidity. If TE tuned that car it most likely is legit. I'll be back there some time in the next couple months, they were on the money with my car and it stayed together even through all the crap I put that stock motor through. I can vouch that they dont fudge numbers to make people happy.
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No man, I wasn't suggesting the numbers are fudged. But what I was saying is, in general, load bearing dynos typically produce about an extra 40 whp than a non load bearing. I just talked with a friend of mine who's a tuner and he told me that there is one model that dynomite makes that is supposedly a "simulated" load bearing dyno. Not sure what that means exactly or if TE even uses that model. Just something I was thinking about.
Taken from a Mustang Dyno tuner's site:
Mustang 500 series eddy current load bearing dyno instead of an inertia type dyno like a Dynojet because we want to have the proper tool to accurately build a map for a vehicle's ECU. A load bearing dyno can actually simulate actual real world road conditions such as stop and go traffic, towing, steep hills, cruising etc. It works like a reverse electric motor. Instead of doing work it actually creates resistance or load. It is virtually impossible to properly build a good quality map without providing a consistent supply of load to the vehicle. Combined with our extensive training and knowledge in the industry, we at DTM can provide a tune that is safe, repeatable and power packed while maintaining good fuel economy. We have typically seen gas mileage gains up to 25%.
What is a "Dynojet" Inertia Dyno Tune?
An inertia dyno like a Dynojet works very well for vehicles that see mostly full throttle runs that are mostly seen in racing conditions. Since it only works on inertia (stored energy) you cannot hold(control) a certain RPM on a particular load cell in the vehicle's software. In the real world a vehicle will only see full throttle only 5-10% of the time. That is why most vehicles tuned on an inertia type dyno will typically have spotty driveability (poor throttle response/flat spots) and have poor gas mileage in typical street driving. That is why you will still see companies that own inertia dynos still use the street to build part throttle maps. Street tunes are totally unnecessary when you have a load bearing dyno. It is right the minute it comes off the dyno. Companies who have these inertia dynos know this problem have tried to sell the idea that they can load the dyno by using the air brake feature to create load. What typically happens is inconsistent part throttle maps due to fact they cannot hold high loads for long periods of time.
If a Dynomite simulates load of the street, how can you get MORE power on the street with 'load' versus no load on an inertial dyno, like DynoJet? Makes no sense!
Re: Well, the poll is in! 350+whp inside
Where the hell, huh? From real tuners who actually tune cars. Not people who copy info from a website and repost it as fact. I'm not talking about mustang dyno's, I'm talking about what I know, in general, namely dynapacks. You ask any tuner if a dynapack's numbers are typically higher than dynojet and see what they tell you. Its real easy to pretend you know everything from pulling up a website and reposting something you just read.
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Re: Well, the poll is in! 350+whp inside
wow that is jaw dropping...i didnt even see it until now but damn...well that just shows that a d17 is just as capable as a k
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Re: Well, the poll is in! 350+whp inside
Agree to disagree and drop it and be happy that people are making the power they are.
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