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Old Jan 8, 2004
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vtec has no advantages on any engine perfromance wise you can force hp out of any engine.
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Old Jan 10, 2004
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im not even gonna sweat it nofriends do whatever makes u happy im not gonna get all stressed out like an idiot just cuz someone has no life lol w/e makes u happy u ***. anyway yes VTEC does make a difference just look at a dyno pull and ull see the difference
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Old Jan 10, 2004
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yep you can see when it engages on the dyno
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Old Jan 10, 2004
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Originally posted by sadboy916
vtec has no advantages on any engine perfromance wise you can force hp out of any engine.
Do you have vtec? How bout a tuned vtec system? mod for mod, if the parts are the same, the vtec setup will always be more efficient and powerful.
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Old Jan 11, 2004
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yes, vtec will beat non-vtec if they were the same model, auto/manual, etc.
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Old Jan 11, 2004
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i got a question about vtec. Before it engages the car is less aggressive than when it engages right? So does a car with no vtec have a less aggressive setting all the time...or is the vtec setting the same as on a non-vtec car?? Kinda confusing but hopefully someone understands!
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Old Jan 14, 2004
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It's not less agressive all the time it basically pulls less since it doesnt have VTEC like the EX. For example, If stick LX races a stick EX, the EX will win do to the VTEC basically. The result is basically do to the same amount of skill of drivers and stock cars.
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Old Jan 14, 2004
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Yeah, the slightly higher hp is due to VTEC engaging at 3k rpms. It's so small that usually you don't even notice any pull.
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i do feel it, not like OMG THIS IS FAST!!! but i feel a decent difference
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Old Jan 14, 2004
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i have an LX and i feel the vtec kick in too!!!! damn it feels so good!!! actually, my car is slow and i only feel powerful when i floor it and i hear the intake and exhaust. but even then i am slow as ish....
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lx dont have vtec so u shouldnt be feeling anything
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Old Jan 14, 2004
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I dunno .. when I have the a/c on and am driving my LX. . I feel something at about 3000 or 3500 RPMs. . like a little kick. . hehe. .
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damn LX's....i should have just gotten the DX and saved el mucho denaro (i don't know spanish). i can roll the window down and other such things.....wait now that i think about it automatic/push button things are much easier. i'm lazy....
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A v-tec engine will not always win over a non v-tec engine i have a dx and when i raced my friends ex we were dead even the entire way and his car had intake and exhasut and mine only intake. But i guess it all just depends on how good of a drive you are in that case.
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you have hectors car in your signature......?
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Old Jan 14, 2004
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Vtec is a little package box that honda likes to brag about that tries to explain or therefor make up for there torqless "wonders". Dont be upset about your non-vtec lower comp civic LX. Just think how happy you will be when you get that standford fabrications turbo and you can boost more than a vtec person can
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Old Jan 15, 2004
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Originally posted by Green Civic
Sometimes turbos are better on non-vtec cars. Vtec is a performance inhanser. You can get better results from vtec if you tune your car and have a cam gear, shaft, rod, pistons, etc.
I wouldn't call VTEC a performance enhancer. Variable timing and lift is used to enchance efficiency. What VTEC is, and what it does, got all twisted and distorted by idiot ricers, and now too many people don't know jack about it. When the engine's RPMs are below the VTEC threshold, the cams' lobes are less agreesive causing better mileage. Once the RPMs reach the threshold, VTEC switches over to a more agressive cam lobe that open the valves wider for more power. Basically, when VTEC thinks you mean business, it gives you a bit more power. Just imagine if Honda used the agressive set the whole time, with no VTEC. Much better.

Myth: VTEC kicks in at cartain RPMs
Fact: VTEC is always on

Myth: VTEC is used to make cars faster
Fact: VTEC is used to create a more efficient engine

Myth: VTEC rocks, and any cars with out it suck
Fact: VTEC is a gimmick (in the performance sense)
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Old Jan 15, 2004
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Let me guess, you have a LX or DX? :-)
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moreless hes perfectly right. I dont see Ferrari's or vettes with Vtec, why you might ask because its usless for racing but great for everyday streetracer wants good fuel economy and just to state a known fact the 3 series comes with vtec(there own version of it) but the M3 does not hmm makes you wonder?
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the M3 does too! Double VANOS or whatever its called. that thing has an 8k rpm redline.
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I just love thier Padle shifters! I think you can only pop the clutch erm padle 10 times electronically though...correct me if Im wrong? So I have to go with a stick.
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I have an EX and I cant feel a damn thing when vtec 'kicks' in. Although, I wish when vtec kicked in it was like a 100 shot NOS but I will keep dreaming. =p
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Any engine is designed with certain compromises. Less valve lift is better for low engine speed because it creates more turbulence and creates better burn. That enhances both efficiency and peformance. However as the engine RPM increases, the "bottleneck" becomes getting enough air into the cylinder. That is where a high lift cam becomes superior. Before VTEC, the engine designer chose the best compromise. That would be one cam profile that would do O.K. at either end of the RPM Range. VTEC sought to remove this compromise. It gives you the low lift and the high lift profile in the same engine.


Simply put, the VTEC allows the engine to be optimised for two different RPM ranges instead of one. That is, generaly speaking*, why the VTEC equiped engines ceate better high end power. At high RPMs they can breathe like they have a race cam and at low RPMs they can still idle smoothly.

*Some engines (like the one in the Civic HX) use VTEC to create a lean burn for increased fuel mileage and are not optimised for horsepower gains.

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You'll feel it if you get a VAFCII and set the VTEC engagement point higher in the rpms (like 4500).
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