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Old Dec 15, 2015
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d17a2 won't start

my car started fine and i drove 2 minutes down the street to the store.came out to leave and it would not start up.while trying to crank it.i can smell gas sorta like it's coming from the back half of the car.it seems like it will go to start up sometimes but doesn't.i pushed in the Schrade valve to see if any fuel comes out.nothing does not even a drop.
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Re: d17a2 won't start

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my car started fine and i drove 2 minutes down the street to the store.came out to leave and it would not start up.while trying to crank it.i can smell gas sorta like it's coming from the back half of the car.it seems like it will go to start up sometimes but doesn't.
Compression?
Spark?
Fuel?
Plugs wet or dry?
Codes?


i pushed in the Schrade valve to see if any fuel comes out.nothing does not even a drop.
Because that was not a fuel line.
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Re: d17a2 won't start

from what i remember, if you start and just move a little, our cars can flog.

wait some time and try again.
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Re: d17a2 won't start

i have spark and i disconnected the fuel line at the rail and put the line in a jug.its pumping fuel to the rail when i turn the key.it has no codes the plugs on the passenger side have oil on the firing end.i took the valve cover off for some odd reason and its covered with water and oil underneath it.so could it be a bad warped head and blown head gasket and not enough compression to start it
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Re: d17a2 won't start

i have spark
Ok, now do a compression test.
the plugs on the passenger side have oil on the firing end
You mean the tubes had oil in them and it got on the plugs when you pulled them out?

.i took the valve cover off for some odd reason and its covered with water and oil underneath it
If most of your trips are only 2 minutes long it may just be condensation.

and its covered with water and oil underneath it.so could it be a bad warped head and blown head gasket and
It would not do this during a 2 minute drive unless the radiator were empty.

not enough compression to start it
How about the compression test numbers?
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Re: d17a2 won't start

Just to make sure, you know what a valve cover is right (because some people use names they think are right on this site, but are not right which leads to diagnostic issues)?

In order to remove the valve cover you would have had to remove the timing belt cover,the coilpacks/ignition harness, and the five long bolt which bolt it to the head.

ps: was the oil on the sparking side of the spark plug (inside the combustion chamber) if so are you sure it was oil and not gas?
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Re: d17a2 won't start

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In order to remove the valve cover you would have had to remove the timing belt cover,the coilpacks/ignition harness, and the five long bolt which bolt it to the head.
Valve cover comes off before the top timing cover.
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Re: d17a2 won't start

Oh right, I was trying to remember why I left it off but I did so so I could time it without removing the valve cover.
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Re: d17a2 won't start

it has thick milky white resido under the valve cover and oil cap tried cranking it wouldn't start then open the radiator cap it made a hissing noise like when you open a 2 liter drink that's been shook up tried it again just to see then the coolant overflow tank hose popped off the radiator
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Re: d17a2 won't start

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it has thick milky white resido under the valve cover and oil cap
Still sounds like simple condensation -- unless we can see more.

Pull out the dipstick: Does it oil look like clean oil, dark oil, or a chocolate milkshake?


How low is the radiator?
When is the last time anyone knew it was full?


Fill the radiator, pressurize to 15 PSI using a cooling system pressure tester, let it sit for a while, then crank the engine (spark plugs are still removed) and see if it blows water out of the cylinders when you crank it over.
If you find water has entered into any cylinder using this test, that's bad.
If it's extremely bad you might not even have to pressurize it, liquid may flow right into cylinders.

Note that a bad IAC gasket can also let coolant into the intake, which could enter cylinders eventually.

tried cranking it wouldn't start then open the radiator cap it made a hissing noise like when you open a 2 liter drink that's been shook up tried it again just to see then the coolant overflow tank hose popped off the radiator
If the above check does not reveal leakage, then find the sticky thread about "overheating common causes reference" and read in the first post about ways to prove a head gasket combustion pressure leak.
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Re: d17a2 won't start

it was chocolate milkshake on the dipstick and oil cap
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Re: d17a2 won't start

If it has leaked coolant into the oil, I would expect to find a badly warped head.
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