Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum If you've got a problem you just can't figure out, a noise you can't diagnose, or a Check Engine Light that won't go away, ask about it here!

Piston rings during HG replacement

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-02-2018
  #1  
Registered!!
Thread Starter
 
jearhart's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2018
Age: 37
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
jearhart is an unknown quantity at this point
Piston rings during HG replacement

So I have a head gasket replacement in my future and I have read on here that this is a good time to replace the piston rings.

First off, how do I know whether this is something that I should do? It seems like a good bit of extra work and money so I would prefer not doing it unless its something that really needs to be done. I don't have a compression tester but even that would not be reliable given the leaking HG. I don't use much oil, maybe 1/2 qt every 5k.

The next question I have is how do you go about doing this with the engine in the car. I would assume that you pull the oil pan and remove the pistons out the top. However during this time in the HG replacement there is an engine mount removed and a jack on the oil pan supporting the engine. So do you just let the engine hang on the remaining mounts or is there another location that you put the jack to allow oil pan removal.

Last question I have is are there any specialty tools needed for this that I wouldn't have, I assume you need a ring compressor but is there anything else? Maybe those little crayon things (cant remember the name) used to check bearing clearance?
Old 06-02-2018
  #2  
Registered!!
 
RobertD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Forest Park, IL
Age: 43
Posts: 296
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rep Power: 78
RobertD is a jewel in the roughRobertD is a jewel in the roughRobertD is a jewel in the rough
Re: Piston rings during HG replacement

First- 1/2 quart per 5k miles is excellent. you should leave it alone.
i knew my rings were shot when i was adding a quart with every fuel up, my oil smelled like gas, and i was shooting the dipstick out the tube under boost. makes a spectacular smoke screen when the oil spray hits the header

The Next- if you are planning to do rings half *** with the engine in the car, you should plan not to do it. if you're lazy enough to try that you're very likely too lazy to clean stuff well enough, and too lazy to lie under the car torquing bolts properly with oil dripping in your face. it's more work than just being civilized and doing it on a stand. you also won't need plastigage as i can't imagine trying to use it accurately upside down.

your description sounds like your rings are above average. recommend you leave it alone
Old 06-02-2018
  #3  
Registered!!
 
RobertD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Forest Park, IL
Age: 43
Posts: 296
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Rep Power: 78
RobertD is a jewel in the roughRobertD is a jewel in the roughRobertD is a jewel in the rough
Re: Piston rings during HG replacement

if you feel like playing with more engine parts than just the head gasket, change the valve stem seals. your 1/2 quart per 5k might only be 1/4 quart afterwards (:
Old 06-02-2018
  #4  
Registered!!
 
Slumpertcivic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Age: 55
Posts: 1,268
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 12 Posts
Rep Power: 94
Slumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to allSlumpertcivic is a name known to all
Re: Piston rings during HG replacement

I would not pull the pistons without serious oil consumption issues.

as far as tool, some tubing to go over the connecting rod bolt, torque wrench, and rubber mallet al9ng with ring compressor is all you will need.

Hondabomd and if not a EX a new oil pan gasket.

Three remaining mounts have no issue holding the engine, yes it will drop some but not a issue. Just be sure to rejack it back up when reinstalling the drivers mount when done.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
D17VTECPOWER
General Automotive Discussion
0
04-03-2019 11:52 AM
gts
Mechanical Problems/Vehicle Issues and Fix-it Forum
10
10-28-2017 11:51 AM
nep
6th Generation Civic 1996 - 2000
4
12-18-2014 09:33 PM
TiggerDX
1st - 5th Generation Civic 1973 - 1995
11
11-18-2010 02:00 AM
Boilermaker1
General Honda Civic Forum Archive.
2
02-26-2003 10:46 AM



Quick Reply: Piston rings during HG replacement



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:12 PM.