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2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

So i have a really annoying idle or startup problem with my 2004 Civic LX. When i start it up in the morning while the engine is cold i don't have any problems, it idles high at about 1200 rpms and settles slowly to about 800 rpms while it reaches operating Temperature. But if i start it up while the engine is hot it first surges to about 1200 rpms and then drops to around 350-400 rpms for a few seconds. After that the Engine idles fine. That being said, i don't have any idle problems on traffic lights or stop signs it's just an annoying behavior when starting it up with an hot engine.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

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I would try shutting it down when hot by pulling the fuel pump fuse. After couple of seconds the engine will stall out, then turn key off and reinstall the fuse in that order. You want the fuel system depressurized.

Now wait your “normal amount” time that a restart would fail and then put key in, turn to run, but wait a couple seconds before turning to start.

If it starts without issue, drive for a minute or two, shut down, normally and restart with normal delay to see if acts up, if it does repeat pulling the fuse to verify that solved the issue.

Next steps would be to get a better than basic code reader that displays live data and get reading for your map and temperature sensors and report back.

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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Alright I'm going to try that tomorrow, and thanks for the reply.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Do the idle relearn?
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Like i said the engine idles fine. This issue only occurs for a few seconds with an hot engine after starting it up.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

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Like i said the engine idles fine. This issue only occurs for a few seconds with an hot engine after starting it up.
I'll try this again:

Originally Posted by ezone
Do the idle relearn
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Can u tell me how to do a idle relearn? I usually just disconnect my negative battery terminal for a few minutes but i read that there is a way where u rev the engine to 3000rpms for 5 minutes.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

The forum search button works wonders...

At the bottom of the first post.
https://www.civicforums.com/forums/3...e-posting.html
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Clean your Idle Air Control Valve and throttle body.

No CEL correct?
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

I guess I'm just going to clean my iacv and do a idle relearn afterwards. Because i haven't cleaned that at all since i own that car.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Ohh sorry no i don't have a Check Engine Light.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

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Ohh sorry no i don't have a Check Engine Light.
Check for codes anyway.
If the light was burned out or disabled or rewired by some unscrupulous mechanic (yes it really happens), you might never know when there's a problem.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Well i used to have a CEL when i disconnected my AIT Sensor to test if that is the reason for my problem. That being said, my CEL Works. I went to Advance Auto to get a code scan and well surprisingly no codes present. I'm gonna get some throttle body cleaner now and start cleaning it.
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Re: 2004 Honda Civic LX weird startup behavior when engine is hot

Just wanna let you guys know that my idle is fixed now. There was a lot of gunk in the IACV. Thanks for your help. While i was doing the repair i discovered a broken engine mount which would describe the vibrations during idle.
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