I'm sick of the SRT-4 already
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I know this is slightly off topic but I can tell you what Dodge I do want, the SRT-10. I could be towing my 2k2 Civic and still kill any SS's, Cobras, or Vettes. Truck is butt ugly but c'mon, its a VIPER engine!
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Dodge neon SRT-4
0-60: not sure, cuz it's only 20 feet from the parking lot to the service bay
(yes, that was cheap, but don't flame me for just trying to be funny)
0-60: not sure, cuz it's only 20 feet from the parking lot to the service bay
(yes, that was cheap, but don't flame me for just trying to be funny)
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[hr]Originally posted by: ShadyMilkMan
ok think of it this way i belive the stock neon r/t has 160 hp.. it runs like a 16.6? now add like 400 pounds and 55 more horsepower and expect it to run a 14.1 i dont think so. The srt-4 will not run anything close toa 14.1, just like the 6 speed nissian sedan i forget its name was suppose to run mid 14s it ended up running high 15s.. Get real it wont happen. Even in articals it says that it didnt have any mufflers or a cat on it, you think that a single production car will ever be sold without a catalyic converter and mufflers i dont think so would never pass emitions.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: ShadyMilkMan
ok think of it this way i belive the stock neon r/t has 160 hp.. it runs like a 16.6? now add like 400 pounds and 55 more horsepower and expect it to run a 14.1 i dont think so. The srt-4 will not run anything close toa 14.1, just like the 6 speed nissian sedan i forget its name was suppose to run mid 14s it ended up running high 15s.. Get real it wont happen. Even in articals it says that it didnt have any mufflers or a cat on it, you think that a single production car will ever be sold without a catalyic converter and mufflers i dont think so would never pass emitions.[hr]
A) You are a narrow minded myopic dolt. The Neon R/T has 150 Hp and ~ 132 ft lbs of torque. BTW; It figures a know nothing ricer would concentrate ONLY on peak horse power figures.
B) They run mid-high 15s with a good driver. Not mid 16s. Nice try, but again, you are a moron and have proven it.
C) First off, it’s 65 more BHP, but again, that’s not the whole story. Try 65 additional WHP along with 113 extra lb.-ft of TORQUE, considering that the SRT-4 comes with 245 lb.-ft. at the crank. Yea, id say that will make up for 294 extra lbs (I have no clue where you got 400lbs from. probably the same place in your *** where you pull all your other "facts" from) while cutting over a full second off its ET.
D) Yes, both the Nissan Maxima 6spd and Altima 3.5SE 6 spd run 14s.. stock. How much room DO you have in your *** to hold all this BS anyway? Do you LIKE being wrong all the time?
E) Why dont you quit reading ricer mags, and actually go out and do something with real cars? Apparently this is where you are getting all your "info" from, and its obviously not working. There is a reason why they are referred to as "ricer rags", I hope you have figured out why by now. "No cats or muffler" indeed
Please go crawl into a dark cave and end your self. The gene pool doesn’t need you to pee in it with your DNA.
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You know. It will be much more constructive if you point out someone is wrong, and subtract all of the flames, derragatory remarks, and belittling.
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You know. It will be much more constructive if you point out someone is wrong, and subtract all of the flames, derragatory remarks, and belittling.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
You know. It will be much more constructive if you point out someone is wrong, and subtract all of the flames, derragatory remarks, and belittling.[hr]
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yea I feel you , All the "import killer" people are raving about it, and now there arguing w/ eachother saying it cant touch there turbo pt cruisers...Isnt it the sam engine and the cruizer weighs like 1000lbls more?
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Not at all. All the same information would be present; it would just be shorter and not as much fun. So I have to completely disagree.
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Not at all. All the same information would be present; it would just be shorter and not as much fun. So I have to completely disagree.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
Not at all. All the same information would be present; it would just be shorter and not as much fun. So I have to completely disagree.[hr]
The SRT pisses me off not because it is going to eat my Civic up, but because of the fast that every little pissant who gets this car is going to be talking shiz all the farking time. I can just see it now, mommy and daddy are going to be buying these for there little brats, and these friggin amature high school wannabees are going to be beating the **** out of them on the streets. Dodge is going to get a baaaaad name from this, and Im sure the insurance rates are going to skyrocket, if not already high. I give the car props for being a pretty fast for a sport compact, but thats it. Dodge has a huuuge reputation for there cars running down really quick. They dont make realiable cars, its given and its also well known. Wheter its a KIA or a Dodge, I spit on it.
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[hr]I can just see it now, mommy and daddy are going to be buying these for there little brats, and these friggin amature high school wannabees are going to be beating the **** out of them on the streets.[hr]
[hr]I can just see it now, mommy and daddy are going to be buying these for there little brats, and these friggin amature high school wannabees are going to be beating the **** out of them on the streets.[hr]
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[hr]Dodge has a huuuge reputation for there cars running down really quick. [hr]
[hr]Dodge has a huuuge reputation for there cars running down really quick. [hr]
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Something interesting I heard.... Is it true that dodge is only making 1500 of these SRT-4's?
If so, don't expect to be able to pick one up for $19k. It will be well beyond that.
If so, don't expect to be able to pick one up for $19k. It will be well beyond that.
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Something interesting I heard.... Is it true that dodge is only making 1500 of these SRT-4's?
If so, don't expect to be able to pick one up for $19k. It will be well beyond that.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Something interesting I heard.... Is it true that dodge is only making 1500 of these SRT-4's?
If so, don't expect to be able to pick one up for $19k. It will be well beyond that.[hr]
dodge said they wernt gonna allow markups at the dealers
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[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Something interesting I heard.... Is it true that dodge is only making 1500 of these SRT-4's?.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: S2000man01
Something interesting I heard.... Is it true that dodge is only making 1500 of these SRT-4's?.[hr]
That's not even mag info, that's someone who's cousin works for a place that makes kanooter valves for chrysler heard from his boss who has a cousin working in the accounting department of chrysler that heard from the guy in the next cubicle that there would only be 1500 SRT-4s.
after all the ranting and raving going on over the SRT-4, it will still crush quiet a few cars on the road and track. Yes, the looks are something to get use to but im sure the power would make up for it. We will just have to wait and see how fast it actually is once its out.
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If you plan on buying an SRT-4, do yourself a favour and get the EXTENDED WARRENTY.
Let's face it--Chrysler has had a long history of reliability issues. Neon, the car itself, has reliability issues. The 2.4L pulled from the Stratus is not a strong motor. Now they have added a high pressure turbo charger to it...
There's no doubt in my mind that SRT-4 offers the best bang for the buck in the performance side. But just as I would never buy a Volkswagon, or a Ford, etc... I don't see myself buying this car. I think if speed was my absolute #1 priority, I would be looking for a used Camaro.
Let's face it--Chrysler has had a long history of reliability issues. Neon, the car itself, has reliability issues. The 2.4L pulled from the Stratus is not a strong motor. Now they have added a high pressure turbo charger to it...
There's no doubt in my mind that SRT-4 offers the best bang for the buck in the performance side. But just as I would never buy a Volkswagon, or a Ford, etc... I don't see myself buying this car. I think if speed was my absolute #1 priority, I would be looking for a used Camaro.
I've said this a million times. The SRT-4 is not the same car that your sister or grandmother drove in '95 and had problems with. The 2001+ models have proven to be a solid reliable car thus far.
Not a strong motor? Quite the contrary, even the '95 engine is quite reliable from a strength aspect in high horsepower applications when the proper pistons and rods are used. Stock cranks and blocks and even the headgasket have been used in 600hp applications.
The 2003 turbo block is a LOT different from the 2001+ n/a PT cruiser block which is slightly different from the '95+ stratus/minivan block. The turbo block appears to have an even more reinforced crankshaft, and there's an extra rib supporting the flywheel side of the engine.
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[hr]Originally posted by: O1Coupe
The 2.4L pulled from the Stratus is not a strong motor. Now they have added a high pressure turbo charger to it....[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: O1Coupe
The 2.4L pulled from the Stratus is not a strong motor. Now they have added a high pressure turbo charger to it....[hr]
The 2003 turbo block is a LOT different from the 2001+ n/a PT cruiser block which is slightly different from the '95+ stratus/minivan block. The turbo block appears to have an even more reinforced crankshaft, and there's an extra rib supporting the flywheel side of the engine.
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dont mind him mike. he still thinks the GT Celica is faster then a moded 99/00 Si [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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I've said this a million times. The SRT-4 is not the same car that your sister or grandmother drove in '95 and had problems with. The 2001+ models have proven to be a solid reliable car thus far.
Not a strong motor? Quite the contrary, even the '95 engine is quite reliable from a strength aspect in high horsepower applications when the proper pistons and rods are used. Stock cranks and blocks and even the headgasket have been used in 600hp applications.
The 2003 turbo block is a LOT different from the 2001+ n/a PT cruiser block which is slightly different from the '95+ stratus/minivan block. The turbo block appears to have an even more reinforced crankshaft, and there's an extra rib supporting the flywheel side of the engine.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: Neonmike
I've said this a million times. The SRT-4 is not the same car that your sister or grandmother drove in '95 and had problems with. The 2001+ models have proven to be a solid reliable car thus far.
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The 2.4L pulled from the Stratus is not a strong motor. Now they have added a high pressure turbo charger to it....[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: O1Coupe
The 2.4L pulled from the Stratus is not a strong motor. Now they have added a high pressure turbo charger to it....[hr]
The 2003 turbo block is a LOT different from the 2001+ n/a PT cruiser block which is slightly different from the '95+ stratus/minivan block. The turbo block appears to have an even more reinforced crankshaft, and there's an extra rib supporting the flywheel side of the engine.[hr]
2001+ models have been proven to be a solid reliable car??!! WHAT??! Are you on f**king crack??? Read the owners reviews buddy, ready the owners reviews...
Dodge has a LONG *** history of making unreliable turbo cars.. starting with Dodge Omni Turbos... to Shadows... I smell recalls already. As for as high horsepower numbers... what the hell does that prove? Any engine can be pushed to 600HP with forced induction.. I'm taking about street use in stock form. This engine will not last..
Look at Ford's new Mustang Cobra SVT.. they claimed to have done 1500 hard clutch drop launches, and said it was rock solid. Next month they had to halt the production line, because the ENGINE KEPT BLOWING UP...
I am going by history, and you are going by hopes and whatever Chrysler PR people tell you.
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dont mind him mike. he still thinks the GT Celica is faster then a moded 99/00 Si [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG][hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
dont mind him mike. he still thinks the GT Celica is faster then a moded 99/00 Si [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG][hr]
But hey, that's okay.. I know how you like to make up little stories to prove a point.. like how you said Toyota's Celica spec was over 2600lb curb weight... remember when you made that up? Yeah.. when it really is only a tad over 2400lb.. that's okay. I don't like to dig up the past.
Cause your 1.6L Civic rules man.. it's the quickest car in the world. I admire you! [IMG]i/expressions/moon.gif[/IMG]
You said yourself "it's not a STRONG motor". Strength implies being able to handle lots of power. The 2.4 can handle lots of power.
I'll say it again, my "shitty" dodge shelby charger has 170000 miles on the "unreliable" turbo engine. That must be a fluke, according to you, the expert here, the car should have quit running probably 10 years ago.
As for owners reviews, as an owner, I have a pretty good idea of what to expect from neons. Usually people aren't provoked to speak out on a product unless they have trouble with it. I know plenty of people with just about all years of neons that are very pleased with their cars, but wouldn't be inclined to write a review of it or something.
Oh, and Ford != Chrysler, and clutch drops don't have anything to do with the longevity (or lack there of) of an engine.
I'll say it again, my "shitty" dodge shelby charger has 170000 miles on the "unreliable" turbo engine. That must be a fluke, according to you, the expert here, the car should have quit running probably 10 years ago.
As for owners reviews, as an owner, I have a pretty good idea of what to expect from neons. Usually people aren't provoked to speak out on a product unless they have trouble with it. I know plenty of people with just about all years of neons that are very pleased with their cars, but wouldn't be inclined to write a review of it or something.
Oh, and Ford != Chrysler, and clutch drops don't have anything to do with the longevity (or lack there of) of an engine.
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actually, i said MY car weighs 2600 LBS einstein. BTW; you are still wrong. nice try.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: HondaGuru
actually, i said MY car weighs 2600 LBS einstein. BTW; you are still wrong. nice try.[hr]
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you are on crack. give it up. quit wasting MY time with your immature ranting and fables. The butthurt "whaaaaaa I got owned and cant come to terms with it"whining is getting annoying.
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I can just see it now, mommy and daddy are going to be buying these for there little brats, and these friggin amature high school wannabees are going to be beating the **** out of them on the streets. Dodge is going to get a baaaaad name from this, and Im sure the insurance rates are going to skyrocket, if not already high.[hr]
[hr]Originally posted by: xzykotic
I can just see it now, mommy and daddy are going to be buying these for there little brats, and these friggin amature high school wannabees are going to be beating the **** out of them on the streets. Dodge is going to get a baaaaad name from this, and Im sure the insurance rates are going to skyrocket, if not already high.[hr]
And no I'm not ******* our cars but it's true. [IMG]i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif[/IMG]
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However, the neon is a 14 second turbo car that will probably end up in far too many hands that are inexperienced and immature drivers. I'd feel safer with my kid in a civic than the SRT-4 neon.
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