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New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

Old Dec 29, 2011
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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

Originally Posted by MindBomber
It's interesting to see that Honda is introducing cylinder shut down, I wonder if that will make it to the smaller four cylinder engines eventually.
they might deactivate one cylinder at best or it will not maintain speed

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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

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I was thinking they could do cylinder shut downs on four cylinder engines in stop and go traffic and at traffic lights, maybe it wouldn't work out to be beneficial enough only shutting down one or two compared to four on an eight cylinder.
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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

They should definitely have automatic start-stop technology on the Civic, and be disablable. Then they'd have to make the starter motor quieter and bigger, which is good.
EDIT: And use a supercapacitor (like what Mazda is doing) so the alternator can help slow the car down and the alternator can turn into a motor when the car is accelerating.
In fact, I think we will see that starter motors will not be on cars anymore, the alternator will be the starter motor.... But I'm not sure, maybe belt driven doesn't provide enough torque to turn over a gas engine, might need to be gear driven.

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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

That is a nice fake drilled rotor.
All it needs now is a nice fake red caliper to go along with it.
But some kids would never know the difference.


/Brake envy?
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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

I never really cared about how my brakes looked as long as they keep me alive and out of a car accident.Only problem I have with my brakes is brake dust.
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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

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You sound like carnoobie..

There's was a thread a few weeks ago where we discussed the benefits of drums over discs for pages, the only downside is that they don't look pretty. Even the performance benefits of rear disks is non-existent on street cars, you can very seriously road race a heavily modified car with drums and people do, because they weigh less and rarely ever engage anyway.

Even the unattractiveness, not really a big deal, I can barely see the brakes with stock wheels on.
I was just saying it was an obvious cost cutting attempt by Honda, one of many which is the reason that, in my opinion and the opinion of others, their new cars arn't so great. Everyone says about all the positives about drums but when I had my chevy half ton, I had to take it back in and get all new back breaks all the time. That was really my only other thing that had drum breaks but, with the price your going to pay for a new car, why have some cheapo shortcut that looks like garbage with any aftermarket wheels? I don't care how long they last, I plan on selling the car as soon as I get out of school, I'd just like to know that I didn't pay top dollar for something that was cheaply made.

To be totally honest, I don't overly like any of the new civics. Maybe I'm on the wrong site, I like my 05 lx for what it is, a good on gas daily driver that I did a few small things to approve the apperance to. Old hondas were great cars.... But then again so were most other old cars, screw new stuff.
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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

Originally Posted by ezone
That is a nice fake drilled rotor.
All it needs now is a nice fake red caliper to go along with it.
But some kids would never know the difference.
/Brake envy?
worse of all, it's a she...
believe she does not have a slight idea of how to speel caliper...
Sorry, MB, but she's canadian to booth :P you guys can see my rear wing in the reflection, actually

Originally Posted by Leafsfan16
Everyone says about all the positives about drums but when I had my chevy half ton, I had to take it back in and get all new back breaks all the time.
actually, i do believe trhe drum brakes works better than disks when the weight starts to get higher... think why all 18 wheelers have them instead of disks.
they work great on the light *** of the civics, though. no need for more unless there was more rear weight bias (kinda felt that during my move back from canada....)

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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

Originally Posted by sdaidoji
they might deactivate one cylinder at best or it will not maintain speed
Actually, Ford is going to make a 3-cylinder Turbo DI engine that has something over 100HP and it'll be in the American F Fiesta and also I imagine a lot of cars in Europe.
I hope Honda starts making Turbo'ed engines sometime, but it'd raise costs I bet
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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

^oh, yeah, but the fiesta is much, much lighter
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Re: New Civics to have Direct Injection + Atkinson valve behavior, 45mpg?

The 2013 Accord coupe concept has a 2.4L DI engine and a CVT. A V6 and a plug-in hybrid with similar range to the plug-in Prius is mentioned
http://automobiles.honda.com/future-cars/


EDIT:
THIS is a good read!:
http://world.honda.com/news/2011/411...ogy/index.html

Notice how the 2.4 engine doesn't have a mention of Atkinson cycle and neither does the 3.5L but the 1.3-1.5L and the 1.8-2L does

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