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Old 07-14-2015
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Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

1998 Civic EX stock coupe, A/T, 149K miles. Car purchased 6 months ago.
Has a set of KYB front and rear shocks (or front struts if you prefer).

During full-lock left turns there is a knocking noise that I have isolated to the left front shock/spring. Replaced left front CV axle 3,000 miles ago, hub, bearings,ball joint, tie rods all in good shape. Right front CV axle in good shape. 100% sure it's coming from left front shock spring. Shocks and springs do not bounce and seem to be in very good working order. Could this be due to improper installation? Top hat issue? Anyone experience this?

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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

Improperly indexed springs will do that.

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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

i would think its more likely to be a ball joint, sway bar end links, or lower control arm bushing
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

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i would think its more likely to be a ball joint, sway bar end links, or lower control arm bushing
I thought so too at first: inspected and tested them (as best I could) and they are not the issue. Pretty sure GolNat has nailed it and I plan to rent a spring compressor today and check it out. Thanks for the replies and I will follow up with results.
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

Just asking, but isn't a 1998 civic a double wishbone suspension? The shock is just that a shock. Yes it is a coilover, but it is still a shock and not technicaly a strut. I am just pointing it out because the shock does NOT turn with the suspension. Are you sure all the bushings are in good condition? I can be hard to see the bushings on the upper control arm since they are way up in the wheelwell. If you can get the noise to occur consistently have someone turn the wheel and place your hands on various components until you find the part that you can "feel" the noise in.
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

while it's out, check the top mounts too, just in case. (it's more common with 7th gen and newer (McPherson suspension), but just in case. also, the bushings on the shocks and everything else while you are there.
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

Originally Posted by mcnoople
Just asking, but isn't a 1998 civic a double wishbone suspension? The shock is just that a shock. Yes it is a coilover, but it is still a shock and not technicaly a strut. I am just pointing it out because the shock does NOT turn with the suspension. Are you sure all the bushings are in good condition? I can be hard to see the bushings on the upper control arm since they are way up in the wheelwell. If you can get the noise to occur consistently have someone turn the wheel and place your hands on various components until you find the part that you can "feel" the noise in.
From info I have read previously you are correct that it's a shock and doesn't turn with the suspension. I think that's the exact issue that last bit of a left turn just before and to full lock the spring assembly shifts/slightly turns and creates the rotational knocking noise.
I checked the upper control visually (LED light) and physically with pressure from a pry bar. Only makes knocking noise during movement and not while parked and turning wheel.

Other threads I have read mention drop (end) links could be the issue.
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

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while it's out, check the top mounts too, just in case. (it's more common with 7th gen and newer (McPherson suspension), but just in case. also, the bushings on the shocks and everything else while you are there.
Thanks. I plan to check it all out carefully.
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

My son and I removed the strut today however, the spring compressor I rented from O' Reilly's ..same as this one: http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-s...p-00947057000P didn't work because the lip base that goes over the spring is too thick and won't fit in between coils. We loosened the nut but notice the entire threaded rod/bolt was turning too. I then noticed there's a slot for an allen wrench to be used to hold the threaded rod/bolt in place when nut is turned.

I didn't see any arrows used for indexing on the spring/shock assembly and not sure if they can be indexed? The bottom of the spring (toward knuckle) is seated as far as it can go in to the lower perch. Since, the compressor we borrowed wasn't going to work we just tighten the strut down and re-installed it on the car. Still making same knocking noise on full-lock left turns.
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

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My son and I removed the strut today however, the spring compressor I rented from O' Reilly's ..same as this one: http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-s...p-00947057000P didn't work because the lip base that goes over the spring is too thick and won't fit in between coils. We loosened the nut but notice the entire threaded rod/bolt was turning too. I then noticed there's a slot for an allen wrench to be used to hold the threaded rod/bolt in place when nut is turned.

I didn't see any arrows used for indexing on the spring/shock assembly and not sure if they can be indexed? The bottom of the spring (toward knuckle) is seated as far as it can go in to the lower perch. Since, the compressor we borrowed wasn't going to work we just tighten the strut down and re-installed it on the car. Still making same knocking noise on full-lock left turns.
Probably a CV joint, or maybe the shock bearing.
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

Originally Posted by turd_ferguson
My son and I removed the strut today however, the spring compressor I rented from O' Reilly's ..same as this one: http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-s...p-00947057000P didn't work because the lip base that goes over the spring is too thick and won't fit in between coils. We loosened the nut but notice the entire threaded rod/bolt was turning too. I then noticed there's a slot for an allen wrench to be used to hold the threaded rod/bolt in place when nut is turned.

I didn't see any arrows used for indexing on the spring/shock assembly and not sure if they can be indexed? The bottom of the spring (toward knuckle) is seated as far as it can go in to the lower perch. Since, the compressor we borrowed wasn't going to work we just tighten the strut down and re-installed it on the car. Still making same knocking noise on full-lock left turns.
Strut mount is bad
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

Ball joints squeak not clunk when bad . Same as worn bushings .
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

no, they clunk too...
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Re: Left Front Shock Knocks During Full Lock Turns

Never heard one squeak, only clunk
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