DIY cluster swap 2003 - 2004 dx also available for other models
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From: NV
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did you adjust the dimmer switch on the cluster? it might just be low and it has memory for both lights on and off. so you can have it bright during the day and dim at night when the lights are on.
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New to the forums!! just bought an 04 civic last month and looking to make some improvements.
Alright so I did my reading on cluster swaps as much as I could. I have a 2004 Civic Value (DX) with 5-speed manual.
I want to buy a 2004 EX dash cluster to replace it with. Just would like two questions answered:
1.) Am I going to have to reset that "SRS" light, or whatever everyone else was talking about? or is that if I screw something up?
2.) What is a Speedo shop? Do I have one of t hose around here? what would be a speedo shop in your area, and how much do they normally charge? We have a Honda garage, would they do it there? I would really like my mileage to stay at 10,400 and not 40,000 from some guy who just travelled from California to New York 3 times in a year.
Thanks a bunch!
Alright so I did my reading on cluster swaps as much as I could. I have a 2004 Civic Value (DX) with 5-speed manual.
I want to buy a 2004 EX dash cluster to replace it with. Just would like two questions answered:
1.) Am I going to have to reset that "SRS" light, or whatever everyone else was talking about? or is that if I screw something up?
Originally Posted by gearbox
Most dealers don't offer this service. You have to take it to a speedo shop and have them flash the current ecu miles into the new cluster.
Thanks a bunch!
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Rep Power: 0 I just picked up a cluster for my 01 EX. However, I noticed that near the numbers around speedo and tach some of them have red trim and others with blue. Did Honda change colors for different years or are they from two different models?
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From: NV
Rep Power: 812 i like red better and yes the red is from the coupe (also has slanty numbers) and sedan is blue. Its easier to match the red cluster with dash lights.
my sedan dash. also the alpine 9847 deck matches perfectly
my sedan dash. also the alpine 9847 deck matches perfectly
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Originally Posted by jayrck81
just rechecked it now thats its dark so i can see it better. The lights on the gauge cluster work fine, i just need to cover up the abs light.
Other than that i have only one problem. The lights on the three dials next to my headunit dont light up anymore. I must have mixed up a wire or left it out somehow. Thanks for your help
Other than that i have only one problem. The lights on the three dials next to my headunit dont light up anymore. I must have mixed up a wire or left it out somehow. Thanks for your help
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From: NV
Rep Power: 812 no way too complicated and half of it wouldn't even work work the ima. kinda stupid imo and i'm sure the wires are different too. so maybe you could look at the diagrams and make a diy, but you still have only part of the cluster working.
Bringing the thread back... sorry
Ive had my 03 ex cluster in for a month now and still havent fixed my problem.
Climate lights dont come on when head lights are on
ABs light is always on
ABS should be easy to fix by just grounding that wire, but i do not know which wire the abs is
Also, for the climate control lights on the dash, i need to know what wire from the 01 dx goes to them, and what wire from the ex cluster it should be connected to. I kind of did a wierd swap, I cut the plugs off from my car (01 dx) and found plugs with wires all ready in them from a 03 ex and spliced them to my car. heres a picture of it so you can get what im saying.
Any help would be great. thanks
Ive had my 03 ex cluster in for a month now and still havent fixed my problem.
Climate lights dont come on when head lights are on
ABs light is always on
ABS should be easy to fix by just grounding that wire, but i do not know which wire the abs is
Also, for the climate control lights on the dash, i need to know what wire from the 01 dx goes to them, and what wire from the ex cluster it should be connected to. I kind of did a wierd swap, I cut the plugs off from my car (01 dx) and found plugs with wires all ready in them from a 03 ex and spliced them to my car. heres a picture of it so you can get what im saying.
Any help would be great. thanks
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From: NV
Rep Power: 812 is your dimmer turned up? simple fix for abs is put electrical tape behind the icon. thats what i did for cruise cause i didn't like the green color. if you follow the diagram, it should work. the only problem i had was the oil light doesn't work. maybe a problem with the cluster cause i have the wire connected and the other two lights work that are connected to it...
Yeah, im not worried about the abd light, i have figured out how to turn it off by grounding it.
Ive checked the dimmer (your talking about the dimmer on the cluster it self right) ive turned it all the way up and down and the climate control lights never come on.
I guess i need to figure out what wire from the car goes to those lights and what wire from the cluster is suppoed to supply them with light.
Ive checked the dimmer (your talking about the dimmer on the cluster it self right) ive turned it all the way up and down and the climate control lights never come on.
I guess i need to figure out what wire from the car goes to those lights and what wire from the cluster is suppoed to supply them with light.
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From: NV
Rep Power: 812 i remember the red/black being power that turns on with the parking lights but does not dim. well the wires ARE the same because they are the same wires in your car. all you did was put them in different pins (because the new cluster has a different pin layout). the wire function stays the same.
Ok, well this is what i got. wiring from 01 DX and wiring from 03. Anything that is grayed out is not used on the other one. The orange one is for abs and is obvisouly not in a dx or lx therefore it is not used, you should be able to ground that wire to turn it off.
01 DX: BLUE PLUG:
Red/Blue ------------------Combination light switch
Red/Yellow ----------------From no 15 fuse under hood
Black/Red
Green/Black
Blue/Black
White/Red -----------------From no 9 fuse under hood
White
Green/Yellow --------------Right turn signal indicator
Green/Red :----------------Left turn signal indicator
Pink -----------------------From SRS unit
Red/Black -----------------Supplies 12V+ for dash backlights
Red -----------------------Supplies switched ground for dash lights
Black ----------------------Ground
Yellow/Red ----------------From oil pres switch
Green/Orange -------------From ECM/PCM
Blue/Orange ---------------Immobilizer control unit
01 DX: GREEN PLUG
White/Green --------------From multiplex control unit
Yellow/Black :-------------From fuel level sending unit
Blue/White ----------------From ECM/PCM And VSS input signal
Blue ----------------------From ECM/PCM, Tach input signal
Black ---------------------Ground
Yellow --------------------Switched 12V+
White/Red ----------------Constant 12 v +
Pink/Blue -----------------OPDS unit (Side airbags)
03 EX: BLUE Connector:
Black: --------------------Ground
Green/Orange: ------------From ECM/PCM
Blue/Red: -----------------From ABS Control unit
Pink: ---------------------From SRS unit
Red/Black: ----------------Supplies 12V+ for dash backlights
Red: ----------------------Supplies switched ground for dash lights
Green/Red:----------------Left turn signal indicator
Green/Yellow: -------------Right turn signal indicator
Red/Blue: -----------------Combination light switch
Blue/Orange: --------------Immobilizer control unit
Red/Yellow: ---------------From no 15 fuse under hood
White/Red: ----------------From no 9 fuse under hood
Yellow/Red: ---------------From oil pres switch
03 EX: GREEN Connector:
Blue: ---------------------From ECM/PCM, Tach input signal
White/Red: ---------------Constant 12 v +
Yellow: -------------------Switched 12V+
Blue/White: ---------------From ECM/PCM And VSS input signal
Yellow/Black:--------------From fuel level sending unit
White/Green: -------------From multiplex control unit
Black: --------------------Ground
Pink: ---------------------(Canada Vehicles only) Washer fluid level switch
White/Blue: ---------------(Canada Vehicles only) DRL Control unit
Black/Yellow: -------------Security control unit
Blue/Yellow: --------------Cruise control unit
Pink/Blue: -----------------OPDS unit (Side airbags)
01 DX: BLUE PLUG:
Red/Blue ------------------Combination light switch
Red/Yellow ----------------From no 15 fuse under hood
Black/Red
Green/Black
Blue/Black
White/Red -----------------From no 9 fuse under hood
White
Green/Yellow --------------Right turn signal indicator
Green/Red :----------------Left turn signal indicator
Pink -----------------------From SRS unit
Red/Black -----------------Supplies 12V+ for dash backlights
Red -----------------------Supplies switched ground for dash lights
Black ----------------------Ground
Yellow/Red ----------------From oil pres switch
Green/Orange -------------From ECM/PCM
Blue/Orange ---------------Immobilizer control unit
01 DX: GREEN PLUG
White/Green --------------From multiplex control unit
Yellow/Black :-------------From fuel level sending unit
Blue/White ----------------From ECM/PCM And VSS input signal
Blue ----------------------From ECM/PCM, Tach input signal
Black ---------------------Ground
Yellow --------------------Switched 12V+
White/Red ----------------Constant 12 v +
Pink/Blue -----------------OPDS unit (Side airbags)
03 EX: BLUE Connector:
Black: --------------------Ground
Green/Orange: ------------From ECM/PCM
Blue/Red: -----------------From ABS Control unit
Pink: ---------------------From SRS unit
Red/Black: ----------------Supplies 12V+ for dash backlights
Red: ----------------------Supplies switched ground for dash lights
Green/Red:----------------Left turn signal indicator
Green/Yellow: -------------Right turn signal indicator
Red/Blue: -----------------Combination light switch
Blue/Orange: --------------Immobilizer control unit
Red/Yellow: ---------------From no 15 fuse under hood
White/Red: ----------------From no 9 fuse under hood
Yellow/Red: ---------------From oil pres switch
03 EX: GREEN Connector:
Blue: ---------------------From ECM/PCM, Tach input signal
White/Red: ---------------Constant 12 v +
Yellow: -------------------Switched 12V+
Blue/White: ---------------From ECM/PCM And VSS input signal
Yellow/Black:--------------From fuel level sending unit
White/Green: -------------From multiplex control unit
Black: --------------------Ground
Pink: ---------------------(Canada Vehicles only) Washer fluid level switch
White/Blue: ---------------(Canada Vehicles only) DRL Control unit
Black/Yellow: -------------Security control unit
Blue/Yellow: --------------Cruise control unit
Pink/Blue: -----------------OPDS unit (Side airbags)
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Rep Power: 0 Wow, this is a good thread. I'm up the road in Austin, with my 01 LX. If I ever get around to getting an 03 LX cluster, could I hit you up for some wiring help? I'll make a drive to Houston for a weekend to come back with a cool looking cluster 
You definitely seem to know your stuff.
You definitely seem to know your stuff.
Originally Posted by hi2nr
wow...this caught on pretty well..hehe who was the first one to do the swap though? cause i know i wasnt the one, but i did right up a DIY, and i wanna show some appreciation for the one who first did the swap
Still never got my abs light turned off. What is the correct pin location for the (Blue/Red) ABS Control unit on the 2003 EX. Thanks. Once i can find out what pin location it should go in I can ground it and the light will turn off.
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From: NV
Rep Power: 812 i'm not sure but check the honda electrical manual. they'll let you borrow it. oh and my oil light is working again no reason! but yay.
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From: NV
Rep Power: 812 yup! all you have to do is re-pin the connectors. pull out wires and put em in different positions. then it just plugs in. look at the wire diagram. but if you want a direct swap, only 01-02 will swap without rewiring. Or you can just wait til I make some nice looking clusters. I'm getting two dx/vp clusters in that i'm gonna make indiglo gauge for and also custom one up in blue leds and everything
