Update for EMANAGE: WORKING SETUP FOR EXs!!!
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Originally Posted by TheSmuggler
If you don't mind me askin, how much do they charge and how much did you end up payin'.. wonder how much it would cost to have the kit installed and tuned... lol
If I remember correctly they charge between $125-150 an hour for tuning. I'm not sure if they charge the same for installation or not. My bill for tuning was around $250....not a bad price for what I got!
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Hey thats not pad at all! But jeez i wonder how long it takes them to install a kit... rofl
well after a little oops 
I noticed that the DIY write up for the emanage has a little updating to be done so others don;t run into problems like I did a little . Only things I had trouble with was that the Rotory settings are 4-8-C not 4-8-E. they never got the vtec feature working. and the Blue rpm wire on the main harness does not go to the blue wire on connector A. thats your Crank position sensor. you don't want voltage running to that. It's The Engine speed pulse wire On connector E pin 26(blue wire). 
Hope this makes it easier for everyone else. thanks a ton to dezod and madwheel for the help and dealing with the million questions I had 
I noticed that the DIY write up for the emanage has a little updating to be done so others don;t run into problems like I did a little . Only things I had trouble with was that the Rotory settings are 4-8-C not 4-8-E. they never got the vtec feature working. and the Blue rpm wire on the main harness does not go to the blue wire on connector A. thats your Crank position sensor. you don't want voltage running to that. It's The Engine speed pulse wire On connector E pin 26(blue wire). Hope this makes it easier for everyone else. thanks a ton to dezod and madwheel for the help and dealing with the million questions I had 
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Rep Power: 0 Thanks again HyaBoosta, I still have all the emanage and harness sitting around and waiting since the kit never came. Good to know there are still others using this as a guide. Mad props to you all that have done it and help others as well. 
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Rep Power: 511 if i do not have vtec, should my jumpers be set as follows:
jp1 1-2
jp2 1-2
jp3 1-2
jp4 open
jp5 1-2
jp6 1-2
jp7 1-2
jp1 1-2
jp2 1-2
jp3 1-2
jp4 open
jp5 1-2
jp6 1-2
jp7 1-2
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Rep Power: 511 i am having trouble connecting to the e-manage with the support tool. i set the jumpers to what i said above because that is what the e-manage instruction manual said to do for non-vtec and am currently trying to update the main unit. the problem i am getting is that the e-manage says it is corresponding with the main unit, but its been 10 min and it is still on the first bar and not moving. the e-manage light is green and the support tool one is orange. what should i do?
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Rep Power: 511 and when i try to import data from the e-manage i get a communication error. i dont know if it matters, but the support tool always says online even w/o the e-manage plugged in. i dont get that.
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Rep Power: 511 ok i got it working. thanks alot hyaboosta 
what do i need to set now so the car gets a MAP sensor signal? what has to be done in the e-manage?
what do i need to set now so the car gets a MAP sensor signal? what has to be done in the e-manage?
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Rep Power: 511 ok i am still having trouble with it not reading a MAP signal still. the car keeps going into limp mode even after getting the support tool to work. i checked all the connections and they are right. mine is set to 4-8-c and it still doesnt work. anyone know what i have to do to get the car to read the MAP signal?
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Rep Power: 511 i checked all the wires and they are correct according to the diy. i know the map sensor wires are sending a signal to the e-manage because when i tap the two e-manage wires for the map sensor together, the problem goes away.
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Rep Power: 511 How come my airflow meter pulse output says it is in use? How do i get it to read 'Not in use'? Also, what should my airflow meter change setting be at? We currently have it at HN_PR-1.
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Rep Power: 318 so has anyone tried the resistor idea for VTEC? my install is coming up here soon, within the next month. i'm trying to do as much research as i can before the install. i'll be running my ex @8psi on SLPs return fuel kit w/ rsx injectors
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Originally Posted by MadWheel
Ok guys, because Greddy has no idea how to translate things into English or write a working manual, many of us have had problems. Optoisolator and boosted2k2 have both got it to work great, BUT they have LX's. This is good and all, but they are wired completely different (except for the TPS, power, and ground). The jumpers are also VERY different.
Here's what you want to wire:
Emanage:------------------ECU:
Red ---- +12VDC-----Yelow w/Black stripe (pinout 2, connector A)
Black ---- GND--------Black (pinout 4, connector A)
Brown----RPM--------Blue (pinout 7 on connector A)
*Grey------TPS---------Red w/Black stripe (pinout 15 on connector A)
White---Map Input--Green w/red stripe (pin 19, conn A, away from ECU)
Green---Map Out----Green w/red stripe (pin 19, conn A, TO ECU)
**Yellow--VTEC IN-----Green w/yellow stripe (pin 15, conn B, TO ECU)
**Lt. Blue-VTEC OUT--Green w/yellow stripe (pin 15, conn B, AWAY from ECU
Purple---VTM Out----Blue w/black stripe (Pin 9, Conn B, TO ECU, cut and terminate signal from engine, the purple wire is to be soldered directly to the blue/blk wire going into the ECU. Tape off the cut part of the wire that is no longer connected to the ECU.
* - Greddy left the gray wire out of the wiring instructions. This is your throttle position signal.
** - THIS IS WHY MY CAR WAS MESSED UP. Greddy wrote the directions BACKWARDS for VTEC cars. Reverse what they say and you'll be golden.
Ok, after wiring in the harness, you need to set your Emanage switches and jumpers. You could have done this before the wiring, but it really doesn't matter yet.
Jumper settings:
JP1: 1-2
JP2: 1-2
JP3: 2-3
JP4: 1-2
JP5: see writeup...
JP6: (1-2) but because I didn't select them on the maps, it throws no codes
JP7: OPEN
---For jumpers 5 and 6, this is for sub injector controlling. I have mine enabled (1-2) but because I chose not to select the maps in the support tool software, it isn't doing anything differently. I did this because if I do use it as an injector controller, I don't have to open it back up again later to mess with the jumpers.
ROTARY Switches:
This has been debated/discussed for quite some time. 4-8-C works great on DX's and LXs, but within 2 hits of VTEC you have a CEL and an engine in limp mode. 4-8-E works VERY well. No codes, smooth idle, VTEC adjustment. This is the switch settings that you WANT for any 01-04 EX civic. It has been tried on my 5-speed boosted EX, and Dezod's currently NA Auto EX. So there's no debate that this setting won't work with an EX. It works flawlessly.
Suggestions: Buy an OBDII scanner (you can find them at autozone). It will come in handy and help you trouble shoot any problems you may have. Solder all of your connections. Don't take shortcuts but crimping unless it's only a temp thing. Soldering is the way to go, why risk it? I mounted my emanage in my center console behind the shifter. Very easy access and the wire lenghts are absolutely perfect.
That about sums it up. MAD PROPS TO DEZOD. He's the guy who went through all this hassle for 2 days on his own car to figure this out, and looked up quite a bit.
Here's some links for you guys:
Upgrade your firmware to V1.39 here:
FIRMWARE
Upgrade your Emanage software to V1.11 here:
SOFTWARE
Here's a pic of the mounted Emanage. Thanks again to Dezod for his support. Hopfully this writeup that took me over 30 min to do helps people out in the future. Good luck guys!
Here's what you want to wire:
Emanage:------------------ECU:
Red ---- +12VDC-----Yelow w/Black stripe (pinout 2, connector A)
Black ---- GND--------Black (pinout 4, connector A)
Brown----RPM--------Blue (pinout 7 on connector A)
*Grey------TPS---------Red w/Black stripe (pinout 15 on connector A)
White---Map Input--Green w/red stripe (pin 19, conn A, away from ECU)
Green---Map Out----Green w/red stripe (pin 19, conn A, TO ECU)
**Yellow--VTEC IN-----Green w/yellow stripe (pin 15, conn B, TO ECU)
**Lt. Blue-VTEC OUT--Green w/yellow stripe (pin 15, conn B, AWAY from ECU
Purple---VTM Out----Blue w/black stripe (Pin 9, Conn B, TO ECU, cut and terminate signal from engine, the purple wire is to be soldered directly to the blue/blk wire going into the ECU. Tape off the cut part of the wire that is no longer connected to the ECU.
* - Greddy left the gray wire out of the wiring instructions. This is your throttle position signal.
** - THIS IS WHY MY CAR WAS MESSED UP. Greddy wrote the directions BACKWARDS for VTEC cars. Reverse what they say and you'll be golden.
Ok, after wiring in the harness, you need to set your Emanage switches and jumpers. You could have done this before the wiring, but it really doesn't matter yet.
Jumper settings:
JP1: 1-2
JP2: 1-2
JP3: 2-3
JP4: 1-2
JP5: see writeup...
JP6: (1-2) but because I didn't select them on the maps, it throws no codes
JP7: OPEN
---For jumpers 5 and 6, this is for sub injector controlling. I have mine enabled (1-2) but because I chose not to select the maps in the support tool software, it isn't doing anything differently. I did this because if I do use it as an injector controller, I don't have to open it back up again later to mess with the jumpers.
ROTARY Switches:
This has been debated/discussed for quite some time. 4-8-C works great on DX's and LXs, but within 2 hits of VTEC you have a CEL and an engine in limp mode. 4-8-E works VERY well. No codes, smooth idle, VTEC adjustment. This is the switch settings that you WANT for any 01-04 EX civic. It has been tried on my 5-speed boosted EX, and Dezod's currently NA Auto EX. So there's no debate that this setting won't work with an EX. It works flawlessly.
Suggestions: Buy an OBDII scanner (you can find them at autozone). It will come in handy and help you trouble shoot any problems you may have. Solder all of your connections. Don't take shortcuts but crimping unless it's only a temp thing. Soldering is the way to go, why risk it? I mounted my emanage in my center console behind the shifter. Very easy access and the wire lenghts are absolutely perfect.
That about sums it up. MAD PROPS TO DEZOD. He's the guy who went through all this hassle for 2 days on his own car to figure this out, and looked up quite a bit.
Here's some links for you guys:
Upgrade your firmware to V1.39 here:
FIRMWARE
Upgrade your Emanage software to V1.11 here:
SOFTWARE
Here's a pic of the mounted Emanage. Thanks again to Dezod for his support. Hopfully this writeup that took me over 30 min to do helps people out in the future. Good luck guys!
E-manage------------ECU
Brown----RPM--------Blue (pinout 26 on connector E, Engine speed pulse)
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Originally Posted by tfnaaf
this has one small correction needed...You may want to revise your DYI i just found that the brown wire dont go to A-connector #7, it goes to E-connector #26 Engine speed pulse its a blue wire also. this may help on some installs where they are having issues with tunning. It should read as follows...
E-manage------------ECU
Brown----RPM--------Blue (pinout 26 on connector E, Engine speed pulse)
E-manage------------ECU
Brown----RPM--------Blue (pinout 26 on connector E, Engine speed pulse)
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Originally Posted by BlackFire
Then wich cable of the e-manage goes into the A-Connector #7??
so i have same problem connecting to main unit. i just put in the power and ground wires.so the emanage has power
(green active led on) connect the usb/serial connector en run the support tools.
Wen the support tool is done opening the active led goes off.support tool is saying online.but i can not update main unit.
it not interacting
I updated it to this:
updated the emanage.
support tools 1.25
emanage version ..-..
update version 1.47How can i connect because i have to reset the unit.
(green active led on) connect the usb/serial connector en run the support tools.
Wen the support tool is done opening the active led goes off.support tool is saying online.but i can not update main unit.
it not interacting
I updated it to this:
updated the emanage.
support tools 1.25
emanage version ..-..
update version 1.47How can i connect because i have to reset the unit.
Last edited by DaRk_MauL; Nov 5, 2005 at 09:33 AM.
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Rep Power: 0 Any real solution for the "VTEC Input Error" (Code 14) on the e-manage on EXs??
I really want to make it work before installing my turbo kit.
I'm using Dezod's PnP Harness and I have the same error as all other EX owners. No CEL but still having that Error Code 14 on e-manage (VTEC Input Error).
Jumper settings exactly as in this thread.
Rotary settings: 4-8-E
Versions:
Support Tool: 1.20
Firmware: 1.40
Airflow meter: Tried every settings: from HN_PR-1 to HN_PR-5 and I have the same error on each of them.
I did not found the 820ohm, 1w resistor but tried an 1k ohm, 1w resistor and still having the same error, did not noticed any change in the Input behavior so the resistor have been removed.
Some of you might think that PR versions of the EM2 are different than US but it is not. It is exactly the same version as US.
Please let me know what else can I try?
Since I have the PnP harness by Dezod I don't know what to do to make the OEM ECU control the VTEC again if I don't get it to work properly.
I really want to make it work before installing my turbo kit.
I'm using Dezod's PnP Harness and I have the same error as all other EX owners. No CEL but still having that Error Code 14 on e-manage (VTEC Input Error).
Jumper settings exactly as in this thread.
Rotary settings: 4-8-E
Versions:
Support Tool: 1.20
Firmware: 1.40
Airflow meter: Tried every settings: from HN_PR-1 to HN_PR-5 and I have the same error on each of them.
I did not found the 820ohm, 1w resistor but tried an 1k ohm, 1w resistor and still having the same error, did not noticed any change in the Input behavior so the resistor have been removed.
Some of you might think that PR versions of the EM2 are different than US but it is not. It is exactly the same version as US.
Please let me know what else can I try?
Since I have the PnP harness by Dezod I don't know what to do to make the OEM ECU control the VTEC again if I don't get it to work properly.
Last edited by BlackFire; Nov 21, 2005 at 08:23 PM.
