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Old Oct 14, 2004
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Question H4 HIDs and headlight relay harness

I originally sent this as a pm to Impulse, but I thought I'd open it up to people who might have the same problem. Impulse, if you read this before the pm, obviously don't bother replying to my pm - TeLLy

My Brightstars are on but I noticed two things:

1) When I turn on my headlights, the "lightning" flicker (gotta love it) on startup is immediate on the driver's side light, and the passenger one flickers a split second after
2) The driver's side light (my kit is 6500K) is more purple than the passenger side. The passenger side is a perfect white. It doesn't matter to me which colour they end up as long as they end up the same colour on both headlights.

I'm using the stock wiring to run into the ballasts right now, my sponsor is giving me a relay harness as well - likely not safe, I know. I was wondering if you had any thoughts or input - I think the problems described above are related, perhaps something about the driver's side ballast getting more juice than the passenger side, hence trying to get power straight from the batt via relay. I'm puttin the harness on tonite, I hope it'll fix it. Anything else I should be looking at? Do you think I've damaged or am starting to overheat/wear any electricals by running on the stock harness for so long?

If anyone has any input, please reply, thanks!
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Old Oct 14, 2004
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bump...wish i could help
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holy **** monkeys, the EL looks damn hot. if it only came with a k series i would drive my *** from tx to canada and buy it.
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Old Oct 16, 2004
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Update: woke up early this morning and installed a relay kit. When I turned on the headlights the relays were activated (heard the distinctive click) but the HID's did not light up. Then when I flicked the high beams on (they're halogen bulbs attached to the same H4 base) the relays clicked and the high beams turned on. So no HID...I restored the original config (direct to headlight harnesses) and the HID's then lit up. Dammit, now what? Anyone? Help?
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Old Oct 16, 2004
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If im not mistaken.... aren't ticking relays bad?
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Old Oct 16, 2004
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Fraid you are mistaken. The click means a coil has energized, closing the desired circuit.
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Old Oct 17, 2004
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Hmmm.....should check the fuses again.....I read on here something about headlight being dim....fuse only "partially" blown....hmmm......well, it's a last-ditch effort....
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yea, definitely check fuse if your HID doesn't turn on, but high beam on same "wiring" turns on. also if you notice the bulbs constantly flickering, try to reverse positive and negative on wiring on HID.
just some stuff i notice while i was wiring my HIDs.
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Old Oct 17, 2004
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Well they never flickered after the initial turn-on lightning effect stuff....but I AM noticing the delay between the driver's side turning on and the passenger side turning on seems to be getting larger - could be a current problem, which is why I think I should check the fuse.
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Update: changing the fuses up to new 20A didn't work either. No change in my lights' behaviour.
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Get this - I tried running that relay kit into a set of halogen H4 bulbs and was able to get low AND high beams, so at least I know the kit is sound.
Here's a thought - I was wondering if perhaps the ballasts/igniters weren't getting enough startup juice to light up the HID bulbs. I'm trying to find spec on this right now...but I was wondering if anyone could tell me, off the top of your head, what the typical initial current draw is on HID's when they start up.
Funny thing is, I replaced the stock headlight fuses with 20A as recommended in the instruction manual, so if the HID's can get started up with less than 20A, why can't they get up and running when I've got a pair of 30A relays going? Bah!

I'm also wondering if maybe one of my ballasts is starting to go south.

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Old Oct 20, 2004
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have you tried http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/

nice set of folks over there
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Old Oct 20, 2004
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Thanks gh0st that helped a bit - I've got some high-current relays on order now as well....
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