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Well I called a shop today to get a quote on lowering my ride, and they told me that it would require a camber kit. Is this true? I am not planning on slamming it, I just want to eliminated wheel gap. This shop quoted me $300!! Outrageous! So I have a friend of a friend that has a shop that will do it for $100. So do I need anything else besides springs? Thanks!

 
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http://www.7thgencivic.com/forums/fa...aq_susp_faq_q1
read

 
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If your getting camber kits front and rear INSTALLED for $100 your either getting CRAP parts or they miss quoted you

 
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He is charging me $100 labor. Its a friend of a friend so he is doing it as a favor basically....

 
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Get the camber kit!!!! It could save you money in the long run. I only dropped my car an inch, but got the kit anyway. I'd rather spend the money on the camber kit then risk tearing up $650 worth of BFG tires.

 
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simple, drop it and keep checking for wear! You will need a front alignment when installed.

 
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We charge .5 hours for front and .5 hours for back @ $65/hour = $65 front and back. Just as a comparison and this is price for everyone.

 
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I'm good, very good! But dayum, you better! 1 hour in and out

 
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from what i have read on these forums, a rear kit is essential when lowering the vic, but a front isn't really neccesary when staying around the 2" drop level. I've been on 2" drop springs for 7,000 miles and haven't noticed wear yet, but I don't drive much either. do the rear

 
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1) Read the FAQ
2) It is up to you if you want to save your money by not getting a camber kit or waste your money by getting new tires every year.
3) You should also get shocks
4) Read the FAQ
5) Educate yourself before slapping suspension parts on your car.

 
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No, thats what we charge, it only takes about 20-30 minutes, and thats with having to answer the phone a couple times

 
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Neg. camber performance wise is good, but as said before it wears tires faster. However performance wise I am finding that it would be better to adjust just how much neg. camber that my car has so I may get a camber kit in the future.

BTW for those that know alot about this just how fine can you adjust the camber with a kit?? Is there a kit that is better for this than others??

 
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You can fine tune it as much as you want. Rears you have no choice but the threaded upper arms, fronts, use plates, not bolts.

 
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^^^Is this going to be a must for me when I go to fine tune my setup. As much as I understand the more neg camber that you have in the back will cause more oversteer which is good. However when the difference of - camber in the back compared to the front gets to great the oversteer gets unpredictable esulting in a car that is to lose. Is this correct???

 
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Negative camber in the rear produces more cornering grip since the tire lays flatter when the car leans. Its more neutral than oversteer. You do not want more camber in the back than the front... its ugly. Running .5 to 1 degree less camber in the rear than the front should do it. Right now I'm at -2.1 front, -1.3 rear. I'll probably kick it to -1.5 next time I get the alignment checked. Oversteer is more generated by a balance bias. If you have a front that digs in, then rear gets real light no matter what. If the rear is also super stiff, it'll let loose. The key is to get the car to feel like its right on the edge of breaking loose, but you can't break it unless you really get in trouble.... a good test is if you can get the car to slide straight sideways.

 
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I think this post is really funny after just reading the sticky

 
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We have a GB let me know if you want in or just want them DIRECT AND FAST!!!

 
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www.camberkit.com There we have a camber faq page that should be helpful if you need any more basic info.

 
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http://www.iapdirect.com/camberfaqs.asp

Trying to get people to buy things peter??

I am going to update the FAQ, mind if I link?

 
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I had some pretty crappy rear camber. It was at -3 and -2.8. I had eliminated the wheel gap, and wasnt slammed. Only a couple inches lwoer. I went through a set of tires pretty damn fast, and I had a complete alignment, toe was within specs, almost 0.00. My tired still wore pretty quick. After a month you will notice a good amount of wear inside your tires. Toe may be worse (usually thread get turned into toe over camber), but camber will definately eat your tires much much faster than stock. It is a lot cheaper for a camber kit, I finally got a camber kit, and new tires after that. So much nicer now. I have the rears set at -1, BTW.

 
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I dont know what Pon was saying ... as the guy is saying he doesnt want his car slammed ...

So if your not slamming your car your FRONT definately doesn't need a camber kit, your rear will need it way before your front will.

God people lets give him good info please, noobs stay away

 
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Getting rid of wheel gap will require a 2" or more drop! A camber kit is not def, but probably!!
And don't call me no noob, that was last month!

 
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Is there one camber kit this recommended over others? I am looking to do a whole new suspension setup this spring so I've been trying to do alot of reading and compairing products. I don't want anything to agressive because I do a lot of city driving, but I'm thinking some Koni yellows, maybe proline eibach kit and a good camber kit. I'm still torn between 18 or 17 in. wheels, depends on if I can get some lighter weight 18 I guess. Thanks for any advice in advance.

 
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SPC is recommended. Hotchkis is great but expensive. there have been probs with Ingalls. OBX, Eibach and Comptech all have one too but few people have them.

1) it doesn't matter if you lower your car or not, you can still get a camber kit for front and rear if you want the adjustability. Some racers who want to stay in stock racing classes get them to add more camber without throwing them out of the class

2) The front is only $20 and usually you can get the front and rear as a set so I suggest doing so. The front will be ok without one, but it is always good to have the adjustability in case you need it.

3) You are all noobs!

 
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We will always be noobs compared to you, oh great one . I wish there was a middle finger icon on here I would give you 2 because that is what I am doing now. LOL

 
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I am a noob compared to zzyzx and boilermaker. They rule!

 
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Lol ... I love throwing around the N-word ... it gets everyone up in a roar.

 
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Haha, been watching this site for over two years now. Just started posting recently when I bought a 04 sedan. One day I may not be a (noobie) but until then I'll keep posting and responding with the best of them.