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Old Jun 22, 2003
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hey C2i0v0i1c, how much is your setup costing you?
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all said and done labor and having to buy duplicate parts to replace the crap that turbo performance sent me its come to like 14 grand, thats not what i inteneded but if i didnt have to be a damn research and development car it wouldnt have cost that much, but when u think about it, ex swap, everything for the turbo kit that was pieced together and not bout as a kit, and all the guages and controllers and the fuel management stufff, it adds up, u guys remember back at the beginning of the year the ultimate street car challenge in sport compact car, that yellow turbo type R the shop that did that is doing mine, that type r is the shiz......it was detuned for the magazine, but it dynos at like 600 hp and then the shop owner has a fully built type r in a hatch, and it has 600 hp and ran a 11.6 at the track
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What shop are you talking about? Is in it Cincinnati? BAZ Racing?
If so, I know the owner of the yellow ITR. He's pretty cool.
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14 grand?! wowzers...

how much for just the rods and pistons you are getting w/o labor?
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rods 695 pistons like 500 something, and yes its BASZ racing its the coolest place ive seen
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Its ok of a place. It is one of the only places in Cincy that does major motor work.

I would love to see your civic though. PM me and we'll meet up.

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the price i quoted for the total is inflated bc i had to by the same parts twice from two different places raceline was the first and they are the worst place to take ne thing at all, so from him to get a motor build it put it back in tune it create a return fuel system and in stall the turbo along with custom work and as for ur engine swap depending on the motor price it should cost no more than 900 bucks including tax to do a swap, so 15,000 is way out there, personally i dont think he ripped me off. as far as being king or what not. if i was tim and had people coming in asking for prices and can i do this and can i do this and never dropping any $$$ it would make me mad too, nothing against you, but i went in there a paid for it all in like 3 weeks, so im on his good side and as for prices on parts he charges like maybe 10 bucks more per part but if u buy it all from him he lowers the labor bill. i will be in South carolina when it gets done so it wont be til like the middle of july til its tuned right
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I understand what your saying. I have no problem at all dropping some cash. I would have done the swap if he didn't qoute me such a crazy price. I'm more than likely going to go back to his shop here within the next two months and have him build me a K20. Like I said, I have no problem at all spending money at his shop. I'm not going to pay over twice the amount though. Good luck with everything. PM me sometime and we can meet up.
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$439 huh? Is that the price for the K-series too?
I can get the K-series cheaper. They are $399 with pins and locks.
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it was detuned for the magazine, but it dynos at like 600 hp and then the shop owner has a fully built type r in a hatch, and it has 600 hp and ran a 11.6 at the track
with 600hp I would sure hope you could go faster than 11.6
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Originally posted by PlatCruiser
with 600hp I would sure hope you could go faster than 11.6

i second that
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theres a thing called traction that he doesnt have til 3rd gear and that was on street tires , and there are so many variables that come into play with that, not to mention that after that first run he couldnt run anymore until he got a fire suit.
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Im still relitively new to the turbo stuff and interals...so what would be better? those 8:5:1 pistons out for our cars or his 9:1 pistons?
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D-17A 75mm 19mm 94.4mm 8.5 : 1 $375.00 Buy Now

Turbo Discounters makes them...Your price seems a lil high especially for a group buy!
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Call me crazy, but if you build your engine to handle a good amount of boost (namely studding the head), you should benefit more from the 9.1:1 over the 8.5:1.

I think 8.5:1 would be safer, but 9.1:1 would make some more power/psi. I might be wrong.
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Originally posted by C2i0v0i1c
theres a thing called traction that he doesnt have til 3rd gear and that was on street tires , and there are so many variables that come into play with that, not to mention that after that first run he couldnt run anymore until he got a fire suit.
I'm very aware of traction, but not only would he need the fire suit, add helmet, scattershield roll cage etc. Build a 600hp car and leaving things such as suspension and slicks just doesn't make any sense to me
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i dont have time to sit here and explain someone elses car there are plenty of cars out there that will beat it for sure. theres already a roll cage, but when u only get to run the car once instead of the 10 times u get to at a slower track u dont get that many chances to better urself. im also not going sit here and list all the parts that are on it either, the suspension has been upgraded too. the car had never seen the strip nor been dynoed before the track, after the track he dynoed it and got 522 and maxed out his 720 injectors he has now moved up to 1000 injectors, o and unless u seen the car in person dont complain to me about it
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Someone go into more explanation for answering my question plz
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The trade off for 9:1 vs 8.5:1 are as follows

8.5:1 More Boost, less umpf before boost
9.0:1 Little less boost, more umpf before boost, more power/PSI gained


All around, the best for our cars depends on the level that you know how to tune your car. If you cant tune worth a crap and want to make more power, go with the 8.5:1 pistons.

If you know how to tune your car, use the 9.0:1

The 9.0 will be better around town because you dont lose all of your bottom end, and you still have a good top end without having to run 20 psi.

The 8.5:1 will let you run more boost for the octane gas you have, but as i said before, you sacrifice the bottom end power.

With the 9.0:1, your car will be slower than stock before you make boost... BUT the 8.5:1 will be even worse before boost. So when you choose to buy pistons, just take the following into consideration:

Driving habits (are you putting around town or Racing?)
Tuning abilities
Amount of boost you want to run
And the Octane of your fuel
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personally, i want in between 8.8:1 - 9.0:1 compression for the application on my car.
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I started typing the same ****, but I got a phone call... but Catalyst is right. I wouldn't have said it any differently.
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Sorry i stole your words. Atleast we are on the same page!
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Sorry i stole your words. Atleast we are on the same page!
lol... I'll let it slide But it was well said... I'm gonna add it to the FAQ in your words if you don't mind
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sweet! That works for me

CDMX... No problem. I try my best to be useful.
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yeah, catalyst, i've learned more from you in the past few weeks after discovering this site, than the entire previous year i've owned my car...mad props
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I just try to help out as much as possible.

Since Stafford (SFpower) made me read everything he could find about turbos, superchargers, and fuel injection (thank you Corky Bell), i learned quiet a bit.

I figure why not help out you guys, because, after all, you do have some sweet a$$ rides!
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