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I know that they have the Hondata with cam gear for d17 out now....does anyone know what you get on the dyno with it?Was thinking of trying to pick one up for my civic but I would like to see numbers first...thanks

 
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its a stand alone engine managment system yo...

its ment to tune your mods IE turbo...

on a stock engine i dought youd make much extra power

 
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It's a waste of $1200 w/o serious modifications whether that be N/A or turbo. I remember a long time ago Andyman said he made like 130whp with just AEM EMS and a stock motor before he went turbo. I imagine that kpro would yield similar numbers.

 
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I'm buying one for my turbo setup

 
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+1 That would be worth it.

 
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thanks for the info...it would be better or worse then AEM ems standalone ?? costs less to i think?

 
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Hondata is going to be better because its not universal, its derived from honda software. This is utterly useless without boost or a major build up. Most people see 10-15 hp on a boosted setup with just the addition of a standalone, because of the added control over the system.
No one is going to have one of these on a stock motor. There's no point.

 
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Wow, that's some info I needed to know!

 
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I plan on getting one to with my set up

 
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if you have a stock motor, the apexi controlers are really all you need to adjust the fuel curves.

 
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I just got a K-pro and stuck it on. the motor right the moment it is basically a stock setup headers, cat back exhaust, & cold air intake. you do pick up a little more power, the power band is better, and you can control everything on your car. which is sweet. I have noticed that the car is quicker and so have a couple of my friends.

But if that is all you are going to run it is worthless.

The reason I have it is cause I have a stage two cam waiting to go in when it gets a little warmer and I pick up valve springs. and the possibility of internals later on in the year.

If you are going turbo or your dive deep into N/A(putting cams and messing with valve train) I say get it but other wise it is not going to net you enough gains for the price tag

at most I may have picked up 20hp but I doubt it. It is more likely 10 to 15

 
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nice info thx again..really informative

 
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You can find alot of info concerning the Hondata VS EMS issue...

I myself would take the EMS, probebley because i'll be controlling E-VTEC instead of I-Vtec which i'll need a K-Pro for, probebley to control VTC, i'll take the EMS anytime for the D

 
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I-vtec > E-vtec

 
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give me props for me informative post too silver surfer haha^^^^^^^^

 
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Talk to Oscar (djmota) and look at his numbers. He has a built top end and Hondata and was tuned by Church Automotive. Its a nice setup.

 
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Hondata did a tune on a stock d17 for the map that's provided with the software. They went from a stock of about 93-ish to about 125-ish at the wheels if memory serves me.

There's no difference between controlling i-vtec and vtec-e. You're opening a solenoid which allows oil pressure to flow into certiain spots, activating alternate cam lobes. That's it. If you can connect that circuit, the solenoid opens and your vtec works.