Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!
hey rob if you want to fix the description my car is an 2001 not 03 lol.
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it wasnt smoke its oil vapor from the valve cover breather
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Ya the higher pressure definatly makes a huge difference. This thing has insane ammounts of torque now.
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Great numbers man. Very impressive for a stock cam. I think you'd easily break 300 with a stage 2 or stage 3. In addition, can we say the stock intake mani can handle the boost?
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Well so far so good with the stock manifold. I don’t know if it will last long but we will see. Im sure ill get in the 300s with just a new fuel pump and a bit colder spark plugs. I would really like to get the dezod pnp job done. But I cant spend the $$ rite now.
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well it wasnt quite "pump" gas we had to add a bit of race gas because shawn thinks I got bad gas from the chevron station I usually go to. We couldn’t even run 11 PSI without it detonating which was really strange because we did 13 with no problems before. but I should be able to run ~14 psi daily no problem.
Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!
I think it was running about ~98 octane is what he figured after he added in the 115 octane. Just think, once you get the new fuel pump in and get those colder spark plugs, youll definitely break 300, and then once you do the pnp, who knows. I told you it wasnt a good idea to sell it. lol.
Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!
I very seriously doubt that if you're using a stock cam. You may want to consider a cam before porting and polishing. It doesn't matter how much more air you can fit in the ports if you can't get it past the valves.
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Also, keep in mind that Church uses a dynapack. Your numbers are going to be higher on a dynapack than a dynojet. Nevertheless, good job. Breaking 250 on a d17 isn't an easy feat.
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so that is just from the stg 3 cam? no head work? If so those are pretty good results. My main concern about going with a cam like that is idle and drivability since this car is my daily driver. I don't want it to have to idle much higher then stock. Also it seems like you lost a lot of low end. I made 140 tq at 3000 RPMs and 265 @ 5k. Mine just tapers off fast after 5k and yours holds the torque longer. Thanks for the advice ooh and also do you have a custom intake mani?
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!
so that is just from the stg 3 cam? no head work? If so those are pretty good results. My main concern about going with a cam like that is idle and drivability since this car is my daily driver. I don't want it to have to idle much higher then stock. Also it seems like you lost a lot of low end. I made 140 tq at 3000 RPMs and 265 @ 5k. Mine just tapers off fast after 5k and yours holds the torque longer. Thanks for the advice ooh and also do you have a custom intake mani? 
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Well with the PNP job, 1mm O/S valves and the stock or maybe a stg 1 cam could I expect to keep most of my low end? My car already feels like you are filpping a light switch once it hits boost. Haha
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There are alot of things to take into account. I was just trying to make the point that without a cam, I very seriously doubt you'll see 300+ whp. I think you're pretty much at your power ceiling with the stock cam, regardless of headwork, your lift will remain the same even if your ports can flow more air, they have no means to get by the valves.
As far as power difference at X rpm goes, attribute that to the turbo and exhaust. I'm running a t3/t4e 57 trim, whereas you're probably running a smaller turbo and I have an open 2.5 downpipe with no exhaust restriction at all. This allows me to keep the power numbers climbing all the way to redline. I would imagine your exhuast is pretty restrictive, which is probably what's having an effect on your power dropping off in the higher rpms.
When it comes to idle, I have no issues. Yes, I'm idling higher than stock, about 1k, but it isn't bad and its very consistant. I can tell you from experience, I could never get a perfect idle with the AEM and that was with 2 of the best tuners in all of Texas tuning it. When I swapped the kpro in, the idle issues dissappeared. Now that's not to say the AEM can't idle the engine with this cam, but there are way more paramaters and its very difficult to get any kind of consistancy with the idle.
As far as power difference at X rpm goes, attribute that to the turbo and exhaust. I'm running a t3/t4e 57 trim, whereas you're probably running a smaller turbo and I have an open 2.5 downpipe with no exhaust restriction at all. This allows me to keep the power numbers climbing all the way to redline. I would imagine your exhuast is pretty restrictive, which is probably what's having an effect on your power dropping off in the higher rpms.
When it comes to idle, I have no issues. Yes, I'm idling higher than stock, about 1k, but it isn't bad and its very consistant. I can tell you from experience, I could never get a perfect idle with the AEM and that was with 2 of the best tuners in all of Texas tuning it. When I swapped the kpro in, the idle issues dissappeared. Now that's not to say the AEM can't idle the engine with this cam, but there are way more paramaters and its very difficult to get any kind of consistancy with the idle.
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And yeah, I have an aftermarket, one-off intake.
I wouldn't suggest a stage one cam. I say go all out if you want big numbers. The better the engine can breathe, the more power you'll make. You won't loose low end, as I said, that has more to do with the turbo.
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I have a 3" exhaust all the way back with a straight through magnaflow muffler. There is no restriction at all vs an open dp. Im gonna have to think about maybe going with an a2 head the the cam then.
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I say lets throw in the fuel pump and see what we can do. I seriously think you can hit that 300 mark with the stock head. Sure, its not the strongest setup or even the best, but I think you can do it. Even Shawn said once you throw in that fuel pump you should be able to hit it.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!
ya he did. Ive seen d16 guys hit over 300whp with the stock head also. I cant see why the d17 head would flow worse. Im going to take care of the intake mani one way or another b4 the fuel pump.
Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!
I say lets throw in the fuel pump and see what we can do. I seriously think you can hit that 300 mark with the stock head. Sure, its not the strongest setup or even the best, but I think you can do it. Even Shawn said once you throw in that fuel pump you should be able to hit it.
And for a 3" exhaust, trust me, you have much more restriction with that than an open downpipe. Adding 1 bend and extending a pipe 2 feet will cause more restriction that without it.


