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Old Oct 21, 2007
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI

haha...that burnout was alllright. haha
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here it is:
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awesome thanks man!
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hey rob if you want to fix the description my car is an 2001 not 03 lol.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

oh yeah....i knew that too...lol.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

nice vid and awesome numbers. congrats man.

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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

nice...video some pulls!! get that thing on the highway with that camera lol
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

it wasnt smoke its oil vapor from the valve cover breather
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

wow! great work. makes me want to turn the boost back up on mine!
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Ya the higher pressure definatly makes a huge difference. This thing has insane ammounts of torque now.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Great numbers man. Very impressive for a stock cam. I think you'd easily break 300 with a stage 2 or stage 3. In addition, can we say the stock intake mani can handle the boost?
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Well so far so good with the stock manifold. I don’t know if it will last long but we will see. Im sure ill get in the 300s with just a new fuel pump and a bit colder spark plugs. I would really like to get the dezod pnp job done. But I cant spend the $$ rite now.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Great job! Keep it up!
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Nice numbers for sure. Not to mention for the stock FP, IM & 91 octane.

Now it's time for a race mani!
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

well it wasnt quite "pump" gas we had to add a bit of race gas because shawn thinks I got bad gas from the chevron station I usually go to. We couldn’t even run 11 PSI without it detonating which was really strange because we did 13 with no problems before. but I should be able to run ~14 psi daily no problem.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

I think it was running about ~98 octane is what he figured after he added in the 115 octane. Just think, once you get the new fuel pump in and get those colder spark plugs, youll definitely break 300, and then once you do the pnp, who knows. I told you it wasnt a good idea to sell it. lol.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Originally Posted by dopes6070
Im sure ill get in the 300s with just a new fuel pump and a bit colder spark plugs.
I very seriously doubt that if you're using a stock cam. You may want to consider a cam before porting and polishing. It doesn't matter how much more air you can fit in the ports if you can't get it past the valves.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI

Originally Posted by greeen01civic4d
thats AWESOME!!! good to know it only takes 17 psi to make 300 hp
This was 18 psi with a stock cam. Before that, I couldn't break 265 whp at all with stock cam. from an 18 to 21 psi jump, I still couldn't get above 270. Then with a stage III cam install alone, I got the following results at 18 psi. It isn't like this is uncharted territory....
Also, keep in mind that Church uses a dynapack. Your numbers are going to be higher on a dynapack than a dynojet. Nevertheless, good job. Breaking 250 on a d17 isn't an easy feat.

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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

so that is just from the stg 3 cam? no head work? If so those are pretty good results. My main concern about going with a cam like that is idle and drivability since this car is my daily driver. I don't want it to have to idle much higher then stock. Also it seems like you lost a lot of low end. I made 140 tq at 3000 RPMs and 265 @ 5k. Mine just tapers off fast after 5k and yours holds the torque longer. Thanks for the advice ooh and also do you have a custom intake mani?

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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

nice job, congrats. cantwait to get mine running again
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

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so that is just from the stg 3 cam? no head work? If so those are pretty good results. My main concern about going with a cam like that is idle and drivability since this car is my daily driver. I don't want it to have to idle much higher then stock. Also it seems like you lost a lot of low end. I made 140 tq at 3000 RPMs and 265 @ 5k. Mine just tapers off fast after 5k and yours holds the torque longer. Thanks for the advice ooh and also do you have a custom intake mani?
Don't forget he has our race manifold, which makes a huge difference on how the power is delivered.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Well with the PNP job, 1mm O/S valves and the stock or maybe a stg 1 cam could I expect to keep most of my low end? My car already feels like you are filpping a light switch once it hits boost. Haha
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

There are alot of things to take into account. I was just trying to make the point that without a cam, I very seriously doubt you'll see 300+ whp. I think you're pretty much at your power ceiling with the stock cam, regardless of headwork, your lift will remain the same even if your ports can flow more air, they have no means to get by the valves.

As far as power difference at X rpm goes, attribute that to the turbo and exhaust. I'm running a t3/t4e 57 trim, whereas you're probably running a smaller turbo and I have an open 2.5 downpipe with no exhaust restriction at all. This allows me to keep the power numbers climbing all the way to redline. I would imagine your exhuast is pretty restrictive, which is probably what's having an effect on your power dropping off in the higher rpms.

When it comes to idle, I have no issues. Yes, I'm idling higher than stock, about 1k, but it isn't bad and its very consistant. I can tell you from experience, I could never get a perfect idle with the AEM and that was with 2 of the best tuners in all of Texas tuning it. When I swapped the kpro in, the idle issues dissappeared. Now that's not to say the AEM can't idle the engine with this cam, but there are way more paramaters and its very difficult to get any kind of consistancy with the idle.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

Originally Posted by dezod
Don't forget he has our race manifold, which makes a huge difference on how the power is delivered.
Yeah, but remember when I retuned that one time and ran out of fuel? I had your manifold on and still couldn't break 260 at 18 psi. There's no doubt that the manifold was a contributing factor to the jump, but technically, the only thing I changed was the cam to see that power jump. I don't think realistically that with a stock im, inferior turbo manifold, weak exhaust setup and stage III cam that anyone would be likely to hit the same power numbers.

And yeah, I have an aftermarket, one-off intake.

I wouldn't suggest a stage one cam. I say go all out if you want big numbers. The better the engine can breathe, the more power you'll make. You won't loose low end, as I said, that has more to do with the turbo.
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I have a 3" exhaust all the way back with a straight through magnaflow muffler. There is no restriction at all vs an open dp. Im gonna have to think about maybe going with an a2 head the the cam then.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

I say lets throw in the fuel pump and see what we can do. I seriously think you can hit that 300 mark with the stock head. Sure, its not the strongest setup or even the best, but I think you can do it. Even Shawn said once you throw in that fuel pump you should be able to hit it.

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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

ya he did. Ive seen d16 guys hit over 300whp with the stock head also. I cant see why the d17 head would flow worse. Im going to take care of the intake mani one way or another b4 the fuel pump.
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Re: Results are in on page 10 @ 17 PSI now with vid!

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I say lets throw in the fuel pump and see what we can do. I seriously think you can hit that 300 mark with the stock head. Sure, its not the strongest setup or even the best, but I think you can do it. Even Shawn said once you throw in that fuel pump you should be able to hit it.
You would have to compare the lobes between the a1 and a2 cam. If the lobes on the a2 cam are lower lift/shorter duration then its possible, maybe. If they're the same or smaller, no way, won't happen. But go for it and try anyways, I'd like to see the outcome.

And for a 3" exhaust, trust me, you have much more restriction with that than an open downpipe. Adding 1 bend and extending a pipe 2 feet will cause more restriction that without it.
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