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Old Jan 13, 2005
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Yes, I would agree, however nitrous cant be used forever, as turbo can. I would say at the track Nitrous would be ideal where you could race just for a 1/4 mile, but on the street (especially where I live) turbos would be better, because you could be racing for a longer time. I'm speaking personally of course, but by my it's mostly highway racing, and the nitrous cars dont even bother to come out to play.
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^^How often are you planning on to be trying to beat on the engine during daily driving? Probably not very often anyway so what difference does it make? Though turbo still holds an advantage over nitrous at top end, nitrous can still come out on top, like that turbo focus zx3 that I spanked thanksgiving day @ 100+ mph
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usually when your racing, you wont need to have the nitrous on past 3rd gear.
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^^during a full all out drag race you'll need it through 4th gear as well.
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^^during a full all out drag race you'll need it through 4th gear as well.
very true, but keep in mind that unless you are using a larger botte 15lb+ with a heater, after ~4seconds of spray your bottle pressure starts to drop dramatically, which is why it is important to use nitrous in lower gears to assure strong acceleration.

Interesting thing to do is compare the traps of a turbo vs nitrous vehicle running the same ET with the same model vehicle. Routinely in my experience the nitroused vehicle will have a better 1/8th mile, but the turbo car will have a better trap.

this is not necessarily due to the "turbo big end" pull, but more to the acceleration characteristics between the two, remember, on most street cars, after first gear, a turbo car will be making full power with little to no spool time between shifts, but it's the nitroused car's pull out of first gear and instant torque in lower gears that make for such a good 1/8th mile.
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^^Exactly, but I was just stating that they won't hold up on longer top end runs
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I made this video to let anyone interested in a TSI kit see what the final product will look like. (on the T25bb) awesome midrange power, i bit lacking up top, but still enough to get your *** moving!


im not lacking top end. my car pulls strong all the way through and doesnt stop. idk if that has to do with me having a t28bb?
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The t28's power band is almost perfect for the 7th gen, it's stops around 7100, and spools at almost the same rpms as the 25...
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i was gonna go with the T28bb kit ($3145) but i came across this used T25bb kit for $1800, so you can see why i went, yet again, with this kit.
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The t28's power band is almost perfect for the 7th gen, it's stops around 7100, and spools at almost the same rpms as the 25...

ic, well im glad i invested in something worth it all the way then...
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Originally Posted by Pb4uGo
very true, but keep in mind that unless you are using a larger botte 15lb+ with a heater, after ~4seconds of spray your bottle pressure starts to drop dramatically, which is why it is important to use nitrous in lower gears to assure strong acceleration.

Interesting thing to do is compare the traps of a turbo vs nitrous vehicle running the same ET with the same model vehicle. Routinely in my experience the nitroused vehicle will have a better 1/8th mile, but the turbo car will have a better trap.

this is not necessarily due to the "turbo big end" pull, but more to the acceleration characteristics between the two, remember, on most street cars, after first gear, a turbo car will be making full power with little to no spool time between shifts, but it's the nitroused car's pull out of first gear and instant torque in lower gears that make for such a good 1/8th mile.
I agree with all of this except for the part about the bottle pressure. I would say that the bottle maintains its pressure pretty well for much longer than 4 seconds unless the bottle is almost empty. A near full bottle at 1050psi is not going to lose its pressure at a rate as fast as if it would if the bottle were near empty. The rate of pressure loss isnt even really noticable on a full bottle.
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/\/\ look guys, quit whoring the thread. Carry this conversation on over in the "turbo vs nitrous" thread in the F/I section.
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i can't believe all of u n00bs are still arguing over turbo/n2o
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This thread would already be dead if it werent for all the wh0rin taking place. Atleast theres some interesting points being made, but I'll stop now. Sorry for imposing. Please dont cry.
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This thread is done.

And those of you that whored this out nitrous vs turbo BS, keep it in one thread please (not this one!)
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