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Old Jan 12, 2005
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hmm from what I see, nitrous will take you faster lol... I guess its because only 6.5 psi. I'm running about 80 shots and I have to shift fast because it goes so quickly. Maybe I should do a vid. Nice civic though.
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with an 80 shot ur running about 15 whp more than me, and maybe 20+ wtq more. To go faster, all i have to do is crank up the boost.....if you wanna go faster, you gotta blow urself up.
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how did u take that vid, where was the camera,
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i have a TINY Sony T1 Cybershot digi cam. I steered (left hand) with my pinky, ring, and middle fingers wrapped around the steering wheel and the T1 between my pointer and thumb. If you notice, when the vid first starts, i'm turning onto the road, so the camera moves to the right, cuz i'm holding it with the same hand i'm driving with.
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damn i cant do that, i have to brace my elbow like right by my hip bone and hold the bottom of the steering wheel, so i can have the other hand free to shift.....i guess ill have to find a better way
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Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
with an 80 shot ur running about 15 whp more than me, and maybe 20+ wtq more. To go faster, all i have to do is crank up the boost.....if you wanna go faster, you gotta blow urself up.

Be careful what you say...I'd knock on wood if I were you, because as soon as you DO decide to turn up the boost, just to get to where hes at with his 80 shot, you might be the one breaking something.
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^agreed
Nitrous gains more torque than you might think. More like 210 ft pounds and 170 hp using a fifty shot with basic boltons to the wheels
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
Be careful what you say...I'd knock on wood if I were you, because as soon as you DO decide to turn up the boost, just to get to where hes at with his 80 shot, you might be the one breaking something.
I know, that's why i'm investing in some forged internals as we speak
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Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
I know, that's why i'm investing in some forged internals as we speak

If you have the money to do boost AND internals, you shouldve saved yourself the time, money, and hassle and went K20. Guess its kinda too late now. What are you gonna say to yourself $4k from now when you're just about at max power on the d17 and you're still getting beat by modded mustangs, srt4's, and whatever else out there that has a decent set of *****?
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why does he make the shift point 6500?
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in the long run swap is best.
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
I just saw it ... MAN you spin your tires a ton in 1st ...

hmm ... seems like you're lacking top end ... you should invest in a 3" exhaust
it's not really the exhaust that's the problem... it's the restrictive head on the car... once the head is port and polished, you shouldn't have any trouble with the top end as long as you're using a 2.5" exhaust or bigger.
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i know people using stock gsr head on 30+psi, and it does just fine, so im not voting for the head
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heres is one of a JRSC svt focus. Its not mine but its someone's to compare to...I am not trying to flame anyone or still a thread just doing a comparison.
All he has done to it is a JRSC with stock boost at 6.5lbs
Note: He was shifting early because it was brand new
But he still took it up to 135mph
http://www.imagestation.com/video/pl...?id=4188923865
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Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
I just saw it ... MAN you spin your tires a ton in 1st ...

hmm ... seems like you're lacking top end ... you should invest in a 3" exhaust

its called lack of hp and torque...a new exhaust isnt going to help that much.
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Originally Posted by C2i0v0i1C
i know people using stock gsr head on 30+psi, and it does just fine, so im not voting for the head

gsr heads are ported fantastic from Honda......no stock head flows better than them
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Originally Posted by audioefx3
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Nitrous gains more torque than you might think. More like 210 ft pounds and 170 hp using a fifty shot with basic boltons to the wheels

haha, no way a 50 shot will give you over 100ft/lbs or tq.......neither will it give 70whp........with all of the bolt ons.
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
If you have the money to do boost AND internals, you shouldve saved yourself the time, money, and hassle and went K20. Guess its kinda too late now. What are you gonna say to yourself $4k from now when you're just about at max power on the d17 and you're still getting beat by modded mustangs, srt4's, and whatever else out there that has a decent set of *****?
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/\/\if i wanted a fast *** car.....i'd build a fast *** car. This is my daily commuter. I just gave it enough power to be fun to drive. Nothing more. I'm building the internals to increase realiability and run a dual stage boost controler w/ high boost being about 12-14lbs.
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
If you have the money to do boost AND internals, you shouldve saved yourself the time, money, and hassle and went K20. Guess its kinda too late now. What are you gonna say to yourself $4k from now when you're just about at max power on the d17 and you're still getting beat by modded mustangs, srt4's, and whatever else out there that has a decent set of *****?

With that logic, why spend money on a front wheel drive car at all?
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
haha, no way a 50 shot will give you over 100ft/lbs or tq.......neither will it give 70whp........with all of the bolt ons.
You might wanna contact the editors of honda tuning and call them liars then because thats what they claimed after installing a 50 shot on our car.
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Originally Posted by Drk01Civic
With that logic, why spend money on a front wheel drive car at all?
ahh well I like the sight of hondas putting a serious *** whoopin on the rest of em, but I understand your point.
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
You might wanna contact the editors of honda tuning and call them liars then because thats what they claimed after installing a 50 shot on our car.

wow, they must have been smoking some good **** then. You can't even get that much on a dohc.
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Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
my car.......my money.......my choice.............
You're right, but if you stay in this scene with your civic for a long time, you'll end up wanting more power, and I think you will see my logic, and regret not going the k20 route sooner. This is why all the guys with the earlier civics swapped their D15s and D16s out for B series. D series = lost cause.
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Originally Posted by thiscrackerntam
What are you gonna say to yourself $4k from now when you're just about at max power on the d17 and you're still getting beat by modded mustangs, srt4's, and whatever else out there that has a decent set of *****?
what are you going to say to yourself $4k down the road with a k20a2 awap and getting beat my built d17 @ 12psi?
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Originally Posted by civic01vtec
wow, they must have been smoking some good **** then. You can't even get that much on a dohc.
Ahh well, I dunno if its all that far fetched. They couldve been testing the 75 shot and made a typo and made the entire article misleading. The torque is what nitrous people are looking for anyway. The shot rating is just hp rating and a selling point.
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Originally Posted by EternalBlue_Vic
what are you going to say to yourself $4k down the road with a k20a2 awap and getting beat my built d17 @ 12psi?
I wont be saying anything because it wont ever happen. I'll still be spraying until I can save for the boost and I'll definitely bet that a k20a2 with a 75 shot will destroy a d17 @12psi
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Having owned 3 nitroused vehicles and one big mother of a turbo car... I will say this.

A bolt on turbo kit Honda making 180 peak whp doesn't stand a chance against a similar Honda making the same or even less peak horsepower on the bottle. Hose makes torque, and it makes it as well as all it's horsepower as soon as you hit it, not when it spools or reaches it's efficiency range, it makes all it's power RIGHT NOW.

My bottled Accord ran 14.80s 2 weeks after I bought it, all stock, with factory tire. Most bolt on turbo Accords at 6-7psi run anywhere from a 15.0 to a 15.7.

But I will say this... a quick build later and a lot of tuning, my turbo F-series would have walked any of my stock bottomed nitrous vehicles



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