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http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=786174&page=1

He's still running >10psi and running some stock internals......

I've been confused to why most of the ppl on this board who have SF kits or other Turbos say...."stock internals wont last" why do you all think our D17's are so weak???

Has your car died on you yet?

Do you have proof that stock internals wont hold up???

Because I am planning or purchasing a SF kit but it seems that there is soo much financial upgrades needed in order for this kit to be usable and not have ur engine damaged.....

If you run 25psi...I could logically see why you would need to upgrade stock internals....but even running 12psi what's to say a car wont last on stock internals for years?

Some of the B's on that site have stock internals and are running 12psi...are DOHC so much better than our D's SOHC.....



I really want to see proof that our cars will die...if we run 10psi on stock internals...that's about all....just proof that we need to do all these upgrades....I understand it's a good idea to upgrade internals...but is it necessary because our engines are that weak???

 
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hmm i want input on this also...im saving up for boost..

 
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20,000km is not a very long time, whats that like 16,000 miles? i do that in a year.

Thats like 700 bucks in aftermarket parts that will make his motor last alot longer under boost. Sure you have to tear the motor apart, so another $600-$700 for labor probably.....

i'm just gonna stop, forget about it. I'm not gonna bother trying to save people money...

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blow your engine have fun

 
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The guy also had aftermarket valve-train.. Which helps under boost also. I wouldn't run 12 lbs for a LONG time without changing internals. You are running the engine into the ground doing that, IMO.

But then again it's just me.. So, do it if you feel it necessary.

 
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If stock internals held up under boost then the aftermarket piston, rod, and crank companies would be out of business. Boost takes life off of your engine no matter how you drive. True, driving your car like your 78 year old grandmother would prolong the death of your engine but totally defeating the purpose of spending a lot of cakes on your turbo kit. More air and fuel in the cylinder chambers just means a hotter fire with an end result of more hp/torq. Also leaves you with shortened engine life. That I am sure everyone and their dog knows.

If your buying a turbo kit, why not spend the extra money to support the boost you will be running? Sure, SF kit is about $3k these days then you need gauges, boost controller etc all of this keeps adding up. Save yourself some headaches, buy the internals.

 
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hey someone else who sees the light!

 
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Asianpride, you raise a good topic....

Have you examined in person a D17 rod? Have you compared it in size and strength to an aftermarket one?
Have you examined a stock D17 piston? Have you compared it to an aftermarket piston?
Has anyone else? I would like to see your opinions on the differences....

Have you read the posts about people popping head gaskets? Wanna know why people are not popping rods out the side of the blocks yet? Headgasket sealing issues.... The HG will go MUCH sooner than a piston or rod... Get the HG to seal and then see how long the bottom end live...

I'm always up for a good debate so I suggest this: run 12lbs, get the HG to hold, and go 40K miles... Oh, and run a compression test.... Then get back to us.... I think there will be quite a few people here that would be interested in your results....

 
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I lay down old information for peopl, Hawk. =p