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parts 7300 which includes 2 turbos, new engine, pistons, rods, two intercoolers, 2 manifolds, 2 sets of ic piping, and all the rest of the stuff......labor was 4100

 
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Let me get this straight, you spent $11,400 for 215 whp?

 
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i spent what i wanted to spend on what i got. i did a swap, i put JE pistons in the swap, ive asked people on this site who has paftermarket pistons yet and i got a answer of someone but they took them out, and to this date i am the first person JE made custom pistons for for this car. i spent what i spent and i have the capability of going higher whp, but for now its at 215 i didnt say ne one has to like it, bc i like it and thats all that matters

 
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i know we've had this discussion before but.... HOLY CRAP MIKE!!! the LX will make WAAAAAAAAY more hp for the fraction of that price... interesting...

 
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and back to the part about i dont care

 
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no offense... but for like 8k total investment beetween stafford and dhracing you could have ran like up to 25psi on the motor, and when running like 15psi you would have hit 12's... imo.... WAY TOO MUCH invested.. and just being the first one with JE pistons isnt worth paying that much, they arent even that good of pistons compared to some of the newer companies to jumpo in the import scene like Weisco etc....

 
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The only factor limiting him is fuel and ignition timing. If he adds more fuel he can turn the boost to the moon (or the limiting factor on the turbo). Also you'll need to start retarding ignition timing to keep detonation away at higher boost levels and or run alcohol/water or race gas. This is where dual stage boost controller s become handy.

You have all the tools to turn up that boost when your ready and get 300whp

Futureswap you act like 25 psi is a common thing but yet you misunderstand turbo compressor maps and there they are not effiecent anymore. Not all turbos are created equal and not all can run 25 psi to make power. There is always a limiting factor.

I know you worship these vendors but you sound like and *** when you have no idea what your talking about other than relaying info you've read on internet sites.

Another note, Wiseco does not have the quality that JE does. If you really want nice pistons CP's are the way to go. They are by far the best I've sold and Wiseco doesn't come close.
Winston cup all use CP and there quality is top notch.


happy boosting

 
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damn double post

 
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and nascar uses JE .My prefrance is the new aries piston thier lighter and stronger and the quality of the machining looks better!JE used to be the best on the market hands down ,but when a company becomes more intersted in profit over product well we all know that one!
not to nock CP they do make sweet pistons and they are top notch as well.

 
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whether people like it or not i spent want i spent and its gone, i am entitled to my opinion and i dont like the looks of ANY other kit. i pieced mine together to get the best of all worlds. and yes i do have the capabilities to crank the boost up another 10 psi, and yes i know ill have to mess with timing and race gas and all that, so in my opinion not all was wasted according to some. and JE certainly did me just fine. and when i started this whole thing there wasnt a kit out there, a manifold or nothing

 
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C2i0v0i1c, I commend you on the work you've done on your car. Its your money, and you can do with it as you please. Arias, CP, JE, Ross, Wiseco they are all good companies with quality products you cant go wrong with either of them it all comes down to preference.

 
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im just saying.. there is better stuff... not like he can be all proud to be the first with JE... who cares, and who can prove it... anyways.. im not sweating SF just for fun.. i DO know my stfuu... and they DO make the best kit.. noone can down on that... but even your neon drivin butt should be able to admit he spent toooo much... not saying ANYONE will run 25psi on our motors, or even that SF turbo s can make it... just saying he sould have an AMAZINGLY built engine and turbo kit for the money of what he got....

 
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Thats a swap already

 
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Just though I'd share my opinion... because **** gets rediculous around here.

First off... I never heard C2i0v0i1c say that he was proud that he has the first set of custom JE pistons. Second... he is not giving a price of what his car is using. The price is basically for almost 2 full custom kits. So based on what is on his car... it's not $11,400. He has enough fuel with proper injectors to make high boost if he wants, with little modification. His numbers are good. His piping is awesome. And rsxswap... how can you say that SF makes the best like you know it. You can only assume until you've had every other kit installed on your car. Or even a kit at that. As far as 25psi... I doubt you will see that with the T3. That thing would be so overheated anyway. Even if you could... let's see the engine even handle that with no change on the ignition and timing. Even with a DH head... there is still alot of work that would have to be done, and who know if the block would handle it... I doubt it. Don't forget that this is SOHC and the timing has got to be an issue at some point.

I think that instead of knocking on C2i0v0i1c, we should all be giving him props. I had a tough time as it was and I know the **** you have to go through. Fact is that I know that for him it was at least twice as tough. So for him... I say good job.

 
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yea we all have our bumps in the road to face.. and some of us learn the hard way when we try to be different.. and some of us get screwed by other people we thought we can trust.... dont knock someone whose tryin to go his own way.. dont flame on him cause he's not jumpin on the SF wagon... i mean im waiting for my SF kit as we speak... but everyone does their own thing.. let him do his.

 
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ahh double post. sorry...

 
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Owned. Well said man.

 
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I give C2i0v0i1c made props man. I just wish he still lived in Cincinnati sO could check out his ride. I just might go to Basz Racing myself and have them work on my EX. They do a lot of good work.

 
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i meant FULLY built engine by DH btw .. and ive already talked to them about FULLY building one for me down to the new rods, pistons, sleeved, EVERYTHING done to bottom end to handle 15psi daily... and more at the track plus the possibilty of nitrous...they dont only port heads you know?

 
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Ok, this is my last post regarding you and toward this kit/money situation.

First of all please learn how to type sentences that do not run on, and or that they make sense.

I had to re-read your post three times to understand your jiberish.

Now to the matter. WHO cares what he paid! Its his car let him spend his money how he likes.

Again your reasoning towards me has too many fallacies. If I drove a honda you wouldn't try using that against me. Another one of those "who cares what I drive" statements. It fasts enough to hit 11's now anyway whether you like the body of the car or not.

If my honda had 378whp like my SRT-4 does you wouldn't keep bringing that up. lease:

I know how turbo kits work, hell the shop I work for custom makes turbo kits. I like them a lot better than mass produced kits because you can tailor them to each car.

You can also spend more time making sure each part was built correctly.

I'll say that SF does indeed make a good kit. I have not seen anyone else use another kit so at this time yes they would be top dog on this 7thgen turbo market.

The guy is happy with his investment. His car has 215whp which is a lot more than 99% of this board. A lot of people need baby steps to understand how their car works and how to get more power with what they have currently.

Whether this is his case or anyone elses is up to the owner.

Happy boosting.

 
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first of all im going to say that i am pround of having the first set of JE pistons, supermex called them and asked them to do it, they told him that they havedone just one other order and that they would need the job #, well guess what je told me that i am the only one they had done to that point so guess who has the box with the only job # on it.....ME. boosted is right what i have spent is basically 2 kits, if u had read the previous post on the duplicate parts that i have and better yet look at the rides section to see that i have two turbos sitting on that table that might explain a few things on the price. not to mention that i have a set of rods still in the box in my room that are not for sale. i didnt do a rsx swap either i just did an ex swap into a lx. so all in all i dint spend 11000 on a damn turbo kit...i spent 11k on a new motor, then i paid to have thing pulled and re installed, paid to have the new one torn down cleaned all new gaskets bearings head bolts and all that other ****, and then had the new pistons put in. yea u can get a kit for 3-4k, but most of the time when u get it u still need more stuff. the company who did mine sells their own kit 6500, and its bad *** but it comes with alot more stuff than most others, especially since the price is double. so most of u people need to get over the fact of how much i spent and move on to the fact of how nice it looks, and what it has on it. also a t3/t4 will go to 25 psi, when greddy figures out the ignition harness ill get that put back on. and when a company that i like comes out with head stuff then ill move on to that, this car aint no where near done. skunk2 is in the process of developing.....how do i know we asked. but for now as the car sits i like it it works fine and will do, and running it at 11 psi right now and it sounds like it came from the factory with no smoke ill stick with it til more stuff comes out..............JODSTER.........the car will be back in cincy it might not be til the spring but it will be back. going into the winter its going to be sitting in the garage for a while. i will let u know bc the only place its going to be going down there is BASZ and i might leave it there for a couple of weeks so if u stop by there it will be there.

 
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the sf wagon wasnt around when i started this endevour. so as not to loose EVEN more money i continued on the path that i was on

 
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and thanks to those poeple who are seeing this the way i see it too

 
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I think I head over to Basz racing after work to talk to them. And I'll be watching for you car to come back to Cincy so I can check it out.

 
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woops!

 
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And, Juu is Owned imp:




I'll fly it 2
In boost we trust

 
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about the greddy e-manage, your saying that e-manage cant control ignition timming of our cars?

 
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unless boosted2k2 got his to work as of right now greddy is still in the process of figuring it out