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Old 01-29-2004
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Question 99 EX turbo vs. 96 EX Nitrous??

Well about a month ago i put the Edelbrock kit on my 99 EX. Next week moving from 6psi to 9psi. Just some info on my car first.
So this kid that goes to my old high school says he can whoop my car. He is supposed to have I/H/E, chip and a 60 shot on his 96 Ex.
He will only race me from a dig, no rolling starts. I told him either go from a stop and a roll so we both can be happy, or take it to the track one weekend.
Now my question is who do you think will win? Both decent drivers, he says he will spray off the line. I'm sick of this kid talkin **** about me and my car. So what do you think?
- Forgot to add he is "supposed" to also have a gutted interior.

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If he sprays in 1st his tires will spin.

If you can stay ahead of him and make the race last longer than 18 seconds, he will not
have enough bottle pressure to keep spraying.

Hondas have similar top ends so it is hard to play catchup over 80 mph.

Turbo will win.
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if he sprays at the line he is ****ed.

but i read ur post a few wks ago when you got own3d by the spec v....dont' know if it is the edelbrock kit or not...but i'll still go with the boost
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ya, i did get own3d by the spec v. but i am getting the mbc on monday hopefully. then with 3 extra psi i should put down more hp. i have no clue on launching with this car, my buddy says to feather the clutch off the line at around 3500 rpms or so. i know if i drop the clutch the tires are toast.
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boost over spray......humble this dude and shut him up, he can't brag about a civic with basic bolt ons and spray
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Originally posted by Black2k2Ex
ya, i did get own3d by the spec v. but i am getting the mbc on monday hopefully. then with 3 extra psi i should put down more hp. i have no clue on launching with this car, my buddy says to feather the clutch off the line at around 3500 rpms or so. i know if i drop the clutch the tires are toast.
practice makes perfect

but yeah ur right, don't dump the clutch
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I agree with KJ . however I also remember you lost to the spec so it could be close.
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I think you will win. Also, this guy may be lieing. Not to mention if his chip is not setup for nitrous it will actually hurt his power and since he is some kid with a civic he may have not done his homework. I hate to stereo type, but some civic drivers fall in to the catagory of the "incredibly stupid".

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Well looks like there isnt gonna be a race anytime soon. My turbo has bad seals and is leaking oil everywhere. I posted about it in the Forced Induction forums if you want to read about it. Maybe in about a month or so it will be fixed.
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i have no idea what other mods you have....or what kinda numbers the edelbrock kit puts down. His car should be high 14's maybe if he can drive. If a turbo vic cant get high 14's that would be sad. what about tranny...both 5 speeds...or are you auto?
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definately boost
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Boost is overrated without the right setup...I'm gonna laugh if the boosted gets roasted.
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I can't even believe a kid with spray would be talking so much trash. Why can't he just accept the fact that you have a nice setup and get on with it.
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The kid shouldnt be talking trash, but I think he has a chance if he can increase the shot on his bottle. You shouldnt underestimate the power of the bottle. Dont get me wrong either because I love turbo, but I like Nitrous too.
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well.. depends on the driver... and the rubber... usually spraying is faster than boosting at the track, but depends on how much you boost too

you should both be about equal so have fun, and be safe... dont blow that engine
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Its all in setup and tunning. End of story. I've seen a 98EX spd greddy turbo kit, fully tuned run a 14.8 on 11psi, best time. Then another friend of mine, 95EX Auto, same kit, nothing done to the tranny but a cooler. The car was tuned better and it ran consistant 14.2's on 7psi. It comes down to tunning and setup. I've seen it a million times.
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yo if dudes bottle is full n fresh, warms his tires up right before the launch, i think he can take it. i have beat many turbo set ups with an nx wet kit. keep in mind folks nitrous keeps pulling as long as it sprayin.
if dude is not experienced with the bottle though, of course turbo will dominate, just because it is part of the complete diving style of the car.
now let say dudes bottle is only 5 lbs full. he will start getting less of a full nitros hit and more of an air mixture. he will still feel gain, but that shot won,t be as good as a shot off a full 10lb bottle.
there are 2 many variables in this equation, just race each other and see who will prevail.
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Originally posted by sstaley
yo if dudes bottle is full n fresh, warms his tires up right before the launch, i think he can take it. i have beat many turbo set ups with an nx wet kit. keep in mind folks nitrous keeps pulling as long as it sprayin.
if dude is not experienced with the bottle though, of course turbo will dominate, just because it is part of the complete diving style of the car.
now let say dudes bottle is only 5 lbs full. he will start getting less of a full nitros hit and more of an air mixture. he will still feel gain, but that shot won,t be as good as a shot off a full 10lb bottle.
there are 2 many variables in this equation, just race each other and see who will prevail.
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Most definitely...what he said!
If that kid with the bottle knows what he's doing, you best watch out though!
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