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what did you do with the plugs that were in the 04 but not the 02? on the 02 blue connector its missing...
white/red
green/yellow
red/black
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so do you just forget about them and leave them hanging out or what?
also i use the wire harness's i have now right? i dont need to get 04 harness's?
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looks like i'll be doing this soon. i guess i'll read through this but any small things I should know?
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^^i'm about to do it right now, just need my question answered and i'm good to go, lol.
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well i think you just rewire the existing plug. Pull out the pins and plug them in different spots.

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yeah i just read that but the blue plug for the 03 cluster has wires that the 02 doesnt have. i just need to know what should i do for those wires.
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i don't understand. The plug is in your 02 cluster right? The new 03 cluster shouldn't have a plug in it.
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according to the DIY you unplug wires from your 02 cluster harness and reconnect them according to a 03 cluster harness. but the 03 cluster has 4 wires that a 02 cluster doesnt have. so what would i do? just dont plug anything into those 4 spots?
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yea don't plug em in. i would ask infinite012 just to be sure...
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and its the opposite for the green plug. the 01 harness has wires that the 03 doesnt have, so i assume i just wouldnt do anything with those. so thats the only thing confusing me so i sent a PM to infinite and caucasian.asian.
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in this picture we see that the 2004 honda civic VP (a.k.a. old school gauges) have the following wires that connect to either nothing or to the green plug:

white/red stripe
green/yellow stripe
red/black stripe
blue/orange stripe

now some of those MAY or MAY NOT be needed for this DIY to be complete, but i am unsure of what i did, at the moment. also, i have no way of checking the wiring because my sister drives the car now, whereas i am left with my miata. go me


on the green plug, we have the following wires that will NOT be present in your existing [green plug] wiring:

blue/orange stripe (will need to be moved from blue plug to green)
pink (will need to be moved from blue plug to green)
red/black stripe (will need to be moved from blue plug to green)
blue/red stripe (probably not needed, so stick it in an arbitrary (read: not used) spot)
blue/yellow stripe (probably not needed, so stick it in an arbitrary (read: not used) spot)
green/yellow stripe (will need to be moved from blue plug to green)

now for the following quote from taz757 who PMed me this information:
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You need to update your how-to on the 01-02 to 03+ cluster swap.

When I went and did mine, I found out the hard way that the yellow/black wire from the green connector had to be extended to reach into the blue connector.

What I did was clip off the extra white/red wire, since it was long, and then spliced it into the yellow/black wire. That way it'll reach over there. Remind them that if they do that, they need to cap off the white/red since it's a 12v constant wire.

Other than that, I think that was it. Pretty straight-forward and easy swap. I'm glad that I *had* to do it.
so, if you're looking at your plugs and the schematics and you notice that one plug has a colored wire that is referenced in the schematics as being put into the OTHER plug, then you have to extend that wire so it reaches the other plug. it's kind of hard to explain, but if you were local i would show you what i meant and do the swap for you for like $5.

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oh man looks like i'm gonna need to study the wire diagram a bit before trying this. I didn't know wires went from one plug to the other.
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it's cake, gearbox. i'll probably end up doing something in excel so that it's easier to understand what goes where. in fact, i'll start doing that now. i'll probably be done in an hour or so
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sweet! i won't have the cluster for another week at best, but thanks I'm sure I'll use it. Decided to go with the coupe cluster with red rings
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oohhh, so some of the wires will also be switched from the blue plug to the green and vise versa.
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Is there no way to match the mileage. Some kind of prom chip. If there was a way i would attempt this.
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Is there no way to match the mileage. Some kind of prom chip. If there was a way i would attempt this.
go to a speedo shop. not the ones where they sell tiny men's swim trunks, but the places they calibrate cop car speedometers. they will be able to reflash your mileage for a price.
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http://temp.dirtysamurai.com/gauge/wiring.xls

there is the wiring chart! hope this helps (and i REALLY hope it makes sense.)

the box with 2 wires that are 2 different colors is a tricky one. you'll have to test to see which one makes it work. or you could try splicing the two wires together and hope to the car gods that you don't blow a fuse...or the cluster...or your car.

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link doesnt work for me?
also just to double check, the 04 civic vp diagram is what our harness looks like now and the 03 civic diagram is telling us what wire goes where correct?
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^configure your harness to match the 2003 harness (pictured in excel)

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i finally understand it now!!
except for #17, 2 wires plug into 1?
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except for #17, 2 wires plug into 1?
that's the thing that i'm unsure of. either wire should theoretically work. just connect one and tape the other one off so that it can't touch any metal. i'm also assuming that you could splice both wires together and have just 1 connector for 2 wires, saving you a lot of hassle, but i don't know if this will work. it may blow a fuse up, or your car up.
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now i'm even more confused. thanks I'll look it over. So the 2 into 1 just pick one wire I gues.
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whoa...I swear somone posted a 2004 cluster for sale.......sorry.....lol
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nope nobody posted anything for sale here

anyway, hey i've been hearing that the new clusters stay on even tho the parking lights are off. is there a way to change that?
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