ECU Fried 7th Gen cars have a Chronic issue - alternator bolts get loose and the loss of grounding will eventually fry the ECU

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2001 Civic

Hi,

i could use a little help here, so the ECU die, I went out and bought one off of eBay along with the ignition mobilizer. It came with a new set of keys. I replaced everything in the first two days everything was fine I go to start today and get the green key light . Why?

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Re: 2001 Civic

Possible your alternator is loose or just corroded at the mounting points and that is what is killing your ECU (s).
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Re: 2001 Civic

No, i have tightened the alternator. Here's what i have, I have old ECU and ignition plus original ring. I have replaced the ECU along with a new ignition/ring that i purchased on EBay together. After replacing all 3 the car ran fine, expect for the fact is made squeaking noise. I did a little research and discover it was the alternator/ac belt. My son and i adjust the belt and the next morning i go to start the car i get the green key light.

I still all of the original parts. Please help!
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Re: 2001 Civic

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No, i have tightened the alternator. Here's what i have, I have old ECU and ignition plus original ring. I have replaced the ECU along with a new ignition/ring that i purchased on EBay together. After replacing all 3 the car ran fine, expect for the fact is made squeaking noise. I did a little research and discover it was the alternator/ac belt. My son and i adjust the belt and the next morning i go to start the car i get the green key light.

I still all of the original parts. Please help!
So I couldn’t sleep last night, and decided to put back the original ECU and original ignition / Ring. Used the original keys and still (green key light comes on) FML. Please help.
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Re: 2001 Civic

You're sure the alternator mounting bolts are tight? You would've had to loosen one to tighten the belt.
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Re: 2001 Civic

I'll double check it now, but would that cause the green light to come on, even if loose a little?
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Re: 2001 Civic


and you’re referring to these two bolts?
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Re: 2001 Civic


This belt feels loose
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Re: 2001 Civic

I’ll wait for a reply before working on the car again. Thank you!
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Re: 2001 Civic

Sadly, as time, gunk, and corrosion works it’s way onto the mounting points, the alternator can “loose” it’s mechanical grounding to the engine and that then results in the ECU being damaged.

Mostly properly torquing the bolts seems to avoid the issue, but we see lots cases where the adjustment wingnut was tighten, but the two main bolts were not fully tightened down and pop goes the ECU.

We have seen many, many people on this forum have that happen to them, because you would never “think” a loose mounting bolt would kill a ECU, but it can.

Before putting a “third” ECU on, good option is to remove alternator and sand bolts and mounting points back to shiny metal, best option is to do same and also install an additional ground cable from alternator body itself to the front frame.
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Re: 2001 Civic

The “OTHER” bolt of the opposite side of the adjustment bracket.

All three circled bolts need to be clean and tight.


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Re: 2001 Civic

So you're sure that the 2nd ECU is dead too? When I checked the bolts they were pretty tight.
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Re: 2001 Civic

Not “SURE”, just a guess.
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Re: 2001 Civic

The top bolt does not make a ground connection, only the lower two bolts need thoroughly cleaned. another thing to check would be the engine/trans to chassis grounds. Also the power cable on the alternator as well as the other connector on the alternator.

I do not know what else could have caused the immobilizer to all of a sudden not recognize the key. Did the replacement set you bought come with a second key? Maybe one was properly programmed but the other wasn't.
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Re: 2001 Civic

Yes the replacement set cane with a 2nd key, and I try that too. I’ll work on the car tomorrow. If you think of anything else please post it. And thanks again
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Re: 2001 Civic

So I went out and bought another ECU with Immobilizer set, installed it and i get the green key light. What else could cause this?
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Re: 2001 Civic

Do you know how to use a multimeter? The service manual has steps to troubleshoot immobilizer but a meter is required.
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Re: 2001 Civic

yes I have a multimeter where would i get the instruction on troubleshooting ?
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Re: 2001 Civic

Here's a link to the service manual. Download, then open up the Civic sedan manual (largest).

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/1...pdated-10.html

Page 2390 (22-245) is the beginning of the immobilizer troubleshooting.
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Re: 2001 Civic

thanks any chance you would know what page i should be looking for?
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Re: 2001 Civic

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Page 2390 (22-245) is the beginning of the immobilizer troubleshooting.
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Re: 2001 Civic

Hello All,


I put in the ECU and immobilizer that I bought original and started to troubleshoot using the service manually and funniest thing happen, the car started! Didn’t do anything different then last time. Thank you for your time and knowledge, one last question where does this go? Lol

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Re: 2001 Civic

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I put in the ECU and immobilizer that I bought original and started to troubleshoot using the service manually and funniest thing happen, the car started!
Good to hear. That is the driver side kick panel. It goes above the accel/brake pedals.
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Re: 2001 Civic

Yes that panel goes on the bottom of the driver's side dash. Flip it over, slide front groove into the white plastic V, push up on clip on the left and then twist to **** into hole on the right.
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Re: 2001 Civic

Hi all,

The car starts and the engine sounds good, but when I turn the steering wheel it sounds like something is rubbing and the steering is rough. Thoughts?

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