Wheels, Tires & Brakes Modifications Post Wheel, Tire & Brake related modification information and/or questions here

225/65R17 how to make it fit

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #1  
Gen7Kid2K22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Gen7Kid2K22 is an unknown quantity at this point
225/65R17 how to make it fit

So long story short I am a just getting into the honda civic scene and bought a 05 LX Coupe around a month later I managed to pick up a set of RTX Arsenic's which are 17x7 which happen to also have 225/65r17 tires on them for 450 including mounting and balancing and wanna know the best plan of attack to get them to fit I know the fenders may need rolling but my current issue is clearing the Shock in the front haven't had a chance to try the back yet any and all help would be appreciated and yes I'm well aware my 7th Gen will look like a damn monster truck
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #2  
xRiCeBoYx's Avatar
Administrator
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Administrator
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 21,620
Likes: 1,252
From: Las Vegas, NV
Rep Power: 511
xRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Flip the tires on craigslist and put on some 215/45-17s. 215/45 is about the limit of what you can fit on a 7thgen. 225/65's are huuuuuuuugggggeeeeeeee, especially with that 65 sidewall. That's like.. truck tire sizing..

If you're really set on that 225 treadwidth, you could try squeezing 225/45s.

Just out of curiosity, what's the offset on those rims you grabbed?
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #3  
Gen7Kid2K22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Gen7Kid2K22 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

+40mm offset there 17x7 they fit in the wheel wells perfect but they are touching the shockz in the front without being bolted on haven't had a chance to try the back yet my theory is spacers

Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #4  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

That is what i have on my CX-5, the windows start where the roof of the civic is.
225/45 does not fit the rear of these civics, much less the 225/65

should be visible that they don't fit.

or you can remove shocks, solid weld the suspension and remove rear quarters and front fender, maybe cut off the front wheel wells too.

in other words, they don't fit. Can't believe I need to tell you that
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #5  
Gen7Kid2K22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Gen7Kid2K22 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Originally Posted by sdaidoji
That is what i have on my CX-5, the windows start where the roof of the civic is.
225/45 does not fit the rear of these civics, much less the 225/65

should be visible that they don't fit.

or you can remove shocks, solid weld the suspension and remove rear quarters and front fender, maybe cut off the front wheel wells too.

in other words, they don't fit. Can't believe I need to tell you that
OK there buddy no reason to be a f***kin d&$k lmao I asked a question and got a semi helpful answer from one guy and then you and all your big dick energy hopped on my thread thinking your all that and a bag of crisps talking **** just because you don't think it's possible doesn't mean that's factual information
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #6  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

factual information - users tried the 225/45R17 and did not fit the rear of these cars.
a decade ago.
they don't fit unless you do something drastic.
do you understand suspension moves? the tire will be above the front fender and hood when compressed. Physically impossible, should be obvious visually.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #7  
Gen7Kid2K22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Gen7Kid2K22 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Originally Posted by sdaidoji
factual information - users tried the 225/45R17 and did not fit the rear of these cars.
a decade ago.
they don't fit unless you do something drastic.
do you understand suspension moves? the tire will be above the front fender and hood when compressed. Physically impossible, should be obvious visually.
Yep I know how the GIGANTIC spring thats stopping me from bolting them on to asses further what needs to be done works im not some dumb kid ya know lol ive worked on vehicles since I was a small child im now 20 years old and have already realized that besides the spacers I need to negatively offset the rims due to the 42mm of positive offset they come with how about you do some research before you commenced the typing of your next comment im well aware the fenders will either need trimming or rolling both of which I'm capable of doing so please explain further how the rims and tires I had on the lugstuds on not only one but both sides of the front of my car while it raised by Jack stands won't fit my car


Last edited by Gen7Kid2K22; Apr 14, 2022 at 10:07 PM.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #8  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

suspension moves. it compresses. front wheels need to turn.
rear is even tighter.
picture makes it even clearer that it don't fit
remove springs, push the tire up to see when it starts interfering with other things,, check how much stroke is left to see how hard it will bang when you hit a bump. turn the wheel to see where it will hit.
you nare gonna need to gut way more than the fenders, front and rear.
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #9  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

our forums do not condone safety hazards to be created - you gonna kill somebody else with that project of yours..
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #10  
Gen7Kid2K22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Gen7Kid2K22 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Originally Posted by sdaidoji
our forums do not condone safety hazards to be created - you gonna kill somebody else with that project of yours..
That's why I've personally seen 20s on spacers at carshows but alrighty there Mr. Admin ill go find one of the hundreds of other forums where productive/constructive criticism and feedback is given unlike this website which was highly recommended by multiple people and so far you've insulted my intelligence, degraded my build/idea without knowing me or the vehicle in question and let's not forget my absolute favorite one of all taken what you think you know about a specific generation of civic and tried to convince me that I'll either run into problems or kill someone well just a little bit of enlightenment id be checking to make sure that I'm not violating my provinces laws nvm causing a fatality or injury to myself or others. if it can't be done then say that but getting all cocky and belligerent only discourages young enthusiasts like me to get away from customizing there cars I took the first reply and started researching different tires but inspite of your negativity when it's done I'll make sure to post pics (feel free to ask any questions you have when the time comes I'll happily and thoroughly explain the process&#128521
Reply
Old Apr 14, 2022
  #11  
xRiCeBoYx's Avatar
Administrator
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Administrator
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 21,620
Likes: 1,252
From: Las Vegas, NV
Rep Power: 511
xRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Both of you calm tf down.

Long story short op, it ain't gonna work unless you cut the fenders and get some huge spacers, so big that they would def be a safety hazard.

​​​​​​215 or thinnervon the treadwidth. Biggest the 7thgen works with is 215/45s
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2022
  #12  
Gen7Kid2K22's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered!!
 
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 6
Likes: 0
Rep Power: 0
Gen7Kid2K22 is an unknown quantity at this point
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Originally Posted by xRiCeBoYx
Both of you calm tf down.

Long story short op, it ain't gonna work unless you cut the fenders and get some huge spacers, so big that they would def be a safety hazard.

​​​​​​215 or thinnervon the treadwidth. Biggest the 7thgen works with is 215/45s
​​​​​​Of course you take the admins side only further supports my theory that you guys represent the toxic side of the enthusiast crowd lmfao have either one of you personally tried to fit the tire and rim combination i have on any generation of civic nvm a 7th hmmm i highly doubt it seeing as the stories changed from its not possible to id need to modify my fenders and get ridiculous spacers kinda contradictory no? Frankly I have better stuff to do then argue with know it all wannabe car guys I've successfully found not one but 2 solutions to my fitment problems that's without swapping the tires or saftey hazard spacers 25-30mm of offset solves the shock problem I know what the biggest size tire that someone has successfully put on a 7th Gen I wanted information on how I'd go about trying to make my rim and tire combo fit which would therefore be the biggest tires put on a civic at stock height ill be removing my account from my phone but leaving this thread for y'all to remember next time a young enthusiast asks a question that way you have a live example on WHAT NOT TO DO AGAIN😂
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2022
  #13  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

for reference to others, this is back in 2005 on a 225/45R16 and some responses based on 225/45R17, already showing there are problems. Even worse for 225/65R17

https://www.civicforums.com/forums/4...5-45-16-a.html

Originally Posted by aznboysrfr
I had 225/50/16 Goodyear eagle f1 gsd3 tires on my ssr comps ... the backs rubbed if you don't have a camber kit and the fronts will tear up your wheel well covers when making u turns.
Originally Posted by Boilermaker1
Whats the offset on the wheel they're going onto? I've seen 225s fit, I've seen them not fit as well. With a low offset, you can do it. Tire height with a 225/45/16 doesn't play into this as its shorter than stock, but the width will make a major difference.
Originally Posted by joshb_
Use camber as your freind here....your going to want to make sure those tires dont rub at all. You should be fine but those tires are alot smaller then stock so your going to have to slam your car to get no wheel gap.
Originally Posted by ironchef
Other than the width issue, the 225/45r16 are close enough in overall diameter, but I think 225/45r17 might be too big. The overall diameter is increased by quite a bit, which combined with the increased width might not work too well.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2022
  #14  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

to those wondering why we say this is not going to work without major gutting?
This case involves the width (known, see above post) but also the tire OD, which is even bigger change.
when suspension compresses, the tire will simply smash through the plastic wheel well and go smash right into the metal chassis above. There will be no gap. See pic below

options?
  • lift suspension - but there are no known makers for lifted civics
  • cut off the chassis - will weaken the upper chassis where the suspension mounts are - ill advised.
Name:  GplcSNR.jpg
Views: 872
Size:  174.9 KB

add that to interference when turning a wider, taller tire. Wheel well, suspension parts, chassis

I could not find a cut off rear quarter pic of a 7th gen, but same metal obstacles are under the rear quarter.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2022
  #15  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

rule #1:
DO NOT BUY the tire/wheel and try to fit it later, that's opposite of proper way.
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2022
  #16  
FRSam's Avatar
Click Here
 
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 3,566
Likes: 1,347
From: Calgary, Alberta
Rep Power: 125
FRSam is a glorious beacon of lightFRSam is a glorious beacon of lightFRSam is a glorious beacon of lightFRSam is a glorious beacon of lightFRSam is a glorious beacon of lightFRSam is a glorious beacon of light
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

This isn't going to end well, is it?

As a fellow early 20-something, this is an unfortunate read.

Reply
Old Apr 15, 2022
  #17  
sdaidoji's Avatar
PITA Admin
Administrator
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15,167
Likes: 1,604
From: TN
Rep Power: 366
sdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud ofsdaidoji has much to be proud of
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Originally Posted by Gen7Kid2K22
​​​​​​Of course you take the admins side
Huh, he is the other administrator of the site...
it's written in English right under his username
Reply
Old Apr 15, 2022
  #18  
xRiCeBoYx's Avatar
Administrator
Hey! Look At Me!! I'm a Supporting Member!!
Administrator
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 21,620
Likes: 1,252
From: Las Vegas, NV
Rep Power: 511
xRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond reputexRiCeBoYx has a reputation beyond repute
Re: 225/65R17 how to make it fit

Last warning for everyone. Play nice. ALL OF YOU
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Honda Civic Forum
Replies
Last Post
rjngo
General Automotive Discussion
8
Nov 16, 2005 10:34 AM
Daemones6
Parts and Products
1
Nov 5, 2005 10:39 AM
palepnoy
Wheels, Tires & Brakes Modifications
14
Apr 5, 2005 10:37 PM
QuinceArj
General Automotive Discussion
7
Nov 28, 2004 11:52 PM
Rollin0n18s
General Automotive Discussion
21
Mar 13, 2003 04:49 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:09 PM.