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98 civic Lx

Hey I’m back 😃 some of you may remember from about a year ago I removed and rebuild my engine.

still running good btw besides an oil leak on the camshaft seal.

I had an unknown clunk on acceleration after the engine rebuild and couldn’t trace it, other than it being on the bottom of the engine.

well the noise has gotten worse now and I’m now suspecting it’s a transmission issue. Maybe something with the gears. But something feels “too” loose. Like I can almost do a full 180* spin on the wheel before the cv axle feels like it engages.

anyone support this theory or have any other ideas? If that’s the cause I’d probably just drop a different trans into the car and call it a day.
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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Like I can almost do a full 180* spin on the wheel before the cv axle feels like it engages.
Woah, yes drop another one in
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Re: 98 civic Lx

Triple check all the engine + trans mounts are tight. I apparently left one half a turn loose after doing my clutch, made a hell of a clunk
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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Woah, yes drop another one in
what is the typical range?
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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Triple check all the engine + trans mounts are tight. I apparently left one half a turn loose after doing my clutch, made a hell of a clunk
all 5 mounts were replaced while the engine was out. Also all steering and suspension has been replaced front and back including the rack and pinion assembly. I even replaced the trailing arm bushings. The only thing I missed was the wheel bearings at each wheel.

and yes to your suggestion. Every nut and bolt for the mounts have been triple checked by myself and 2 others. Mounts were my first thought hearing the clunk.

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Re: 98 civic Lx

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what is the typical range?
around a few degrees?
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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around a few degrees?
😂 ok so not 180*. Maybe between 0-10* the smaller the better.
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Re: 98 civic Lx

Jack up one side. With trans in park (or first gear for manual), how far can you turn the lifted wheel? If 180° like you're saying, see if both axles follow their respective wheel directly or if there is slop. If no slop, something is terribly wrong in the transmission.
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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Jack up one side. With trans in park (or first gear for manual), how far can you turn the lifted wheel? If 180° like you're saying, see if both axles follow their respective wheel directly or if there is slop. If no slop, something is terribly wrong in the transmission.
ok I’ll do this today
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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Jack up one side. With trans in park (or first gear for manual), how far can you turn the lifted wheel? If 180° like you're saying, see if both axles follow their respective wheel directly or if there is slop. If no slop, something is terribly wrong in the transmission.
I did a series of tests. Driver side lifted, passenger
side lifted, both sides lifted. Park, drive, and reverse with the car shut off.

Tests came out consistently no matter how the car was lifted.
- park : 90*
- reverse : < 1*
- drive : < 1*

I’m still concerned about the transmission. The noise is definitely originating from the torque converter area / transmission. I pulled the torque convertor cover off and watched it spin with the car jacked up in drive. Looks like it spins straight to me.

The noise is definitely getting worse. It’s like a metallic “clink” whenever i move the car from a complete stop. Like taking a hammer and hitting a metal pole.
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Re: 98 civic Lx

90° with one tire off the ground? Did you confirm the axles were okay?
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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90° with one tire off the ground? Did you confirm the axles were okay?
yes but only 90* off the ground while in park. While in drive or reverse I feel engagement almost immediately. Both cv axle were replaced last month as a suggestion to resolve the “clink” but no change.


edit: would 15” rims instead of 14” have any effect on this?

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Re: 98 civic Lx

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edit: would 15” rims instead of 14” have any effect on this?
surely not
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Re: 98 civic Lx

I’m up for swapping transmission and torque convertor. Just want to make sure this is the right thing to do.
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Re: 98 civic Lx

Some additional info. I just got back from a local shop They said I have a rough idle/shudder and sluggish acceleration. They said “unknown” cause as of right now but if I wanted to further troubleshoot it would be by the hour. I decided to take the car home for now.
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Re: 98 civic Lx

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yes but only 90* off the ground while in park.
That seems like way more than it should. I think something is wrong inside the transmission but I don't really know what. First thought is the differential but that doesn't explain why it's better in drive. Second thought is some issue with the park pawl system but I'm not sure.

If you wanted, you could try both front wheels off the ground and in drive. Check how much slop there is when you turn one wheel to when the other starts turning in the opposite direction. If it's still 90°, that would rule out park pawl I guess. No matter what, it's still internal transmission as slop while in park immediately rules out the torque converter.
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Re: 98 civic Lx

Originally Posted by BrotatoChip
That seems like way more than it should. I think something is wrong inside the transmission but I don't really know what. First thought is the differential but that doesn't explain why it's better in drive. Second thought is some issue with the park pawl system but I'm not sure.

If you wanted, you could try both front wheels off the ground and in drive. Check how much slop there is when you turn one wheel to when the other starts turning in the opposite direction. If it's still 90°, that would rule out park pawl I guess. No matter what, it's still internal transmission as slop while in park immediately rules out the torque converter.
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