ECU died - AGAIN!
Hi all -
Great forum! The advice I found here helped me rule out eight possible causes of my Civic (1992 LX manual with 165,000 miles) no-start problem. Alas, it was the ECU.
But...no problem! I bought a 28-year-old civic ECU (the right one for my vehicle) for $200 on eBay, plugged it in and...problem solved!
For a week, anyway. After about six starts and about sixty miles of driving, I went out this morning and...same problem. No-start! Same clues too: with key in position II, CEL comes on but fuel pump does not prime. And CEL stays on.
So I worry there's a hidden short somewhere in my wiring that is...sending a surge of current to the ECU and ruining it?
I have no idea how to diagnose this or if it's even a possibility. Can anyone help me with this?
Many, many thanks! I don't want to throw away my car but...
Great forum! The advice I found here helped me rule out eight possible causes of my Civic (1992 LX manual with 165,000 miles) no-start problem. Alas, it was the ECU.
But...no problem! I bought a 28-year-old civic ECU (the right one for my vehicle) for $200 on eBay, plugged it in and...problem solved!
For a week, anyway. After about six starts and about sixty miles of driving, I went out this morning and...same problem. No-start! Same clues too: with key in position II, CEL comes on but fuel pump does not prime. And CEL stays on.
So I worry there's a hidden short somewhere in my wiring that is...sending a surge of current to the ECU and ruining it?
I have no idea how to diagnose this or if it's even a possibility. Can anyone help me with this?
Many, many thanks! I don't want to throw away my car but...
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Re: ECU died - AGAIN!
in the 7th gen, there is a famous issue with loose bolts on alternator causing grounding issues that kills ECU's.
check electrical grounding, voltage fluctuations
spikes in amperage causes frying
check electrical grounding, voltage fluctuations
spikes in amperage causes frying
Re: ECU died - AGAIN!
Thanks - that's something to go on!
So if I find loose bolts on the alternator, I'm in with a chance.
But as for voltage fluctuations, I'm not sure what to do:
Where should I be reading the voltages?
What should the reading be?
What amount of fluctuation is bad?
And what position should the key be in? Position (II)? Or should I have someone cranking the starter (pos III)?
Or is this something that can only be diagnosed with the engine running, in which case...not possible for me.
Many thanks!
So if I find loose bolts on the alternator, I'm in with a chance.
But as for voltage fluctuations, I'm not sure what to do:
Where should I be reading the voltages?
What should the reading be?
What amount of fluctuation is bad?
And what position should the key be in? Position (II)? Or should I have someone cranking the starter (pos III)?
Or is this something that can only be diagnosed with the engine running, in which case...not possible for me.
Many thanks!
The bolts on the alternator are tight. Very tight.
I have not tested whether the alternator is working properly (again, I don't know how to do this), but here's another question: assuming it is properly grounded, could a malfunctioning alternator fry the ECU?
(Also, why did Honda not include a voltage regulator or fuse to protect the doggone ECU from damage?!)
Thanks again!
I have not tested whether the alternator is working properly (again, I don't know how to do this), but here's another question: assuming it is properly grounded, could a malfunctioning alternator fry the ECU?
(Also, why did Honda not include a voltage regulator or fuse to protect the doggone ECU from damage?!)
Thanks again!
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Re: ECU died - AGAIN!
car parts stores can check the alternator.
Again, that is common on the 7th, not much on the 6th gen cars.
Different parts could be responsible. A damage wire insulation can cause a spike in amperage. You will need to pull it out to see if there are no issues of wiring shorts. Or loose connectors
Again, that is common on the 7th, not much on the 6th gen cars.
Different parts could be responsible. A damage wire insulation can cause a spike in amperage. You will need to pull it out to see if there are no issues of wiring shorts. Or loose connectors
Re: ECU died - AGAIN!
Have you checked to see if theres any hacked wires between the ECU and the 2 fuse panels?
Have you checked all of the grounds in the car and the engine bay to make sure none of them are corroded or loose?
Have you checked all of the grounds in the car and the engine bay to make sure none of them are corroded or loose?
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