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So my ex girlfriend called me and complained about problems with her 2002 Civic. Obviously this would be the best place to ask about the problem since I don't have much knowledge with Hondas.

So I'm thinking her transmission is slipping and she needs to change the fluid. Apperently, when in D (drive) the car will just rev as if in neutral, but will pull slightly... which gives me the impression the tranny is slipping. She also told me that there was a buzzing noise and she described it as sounding like a bumble bee.

Either way, her boyfriend and her father both came to the conclusion that the transmission was trashed and that it needs a new one... I highly doubt this. I think it is something much more simple and they're not the brightest people on earth either.

Does anybody have a confirmed conclusion to the problem I just listed?

Thanks.

 
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sounds like it is just low on fluid. have you checked the level? If the tranny was slipping, right before it would shift into a new gear, the rpm's would rev up high untill it shifted into the gear.

Now if the fluid level is fine, make sure you dont have any trouble codes stored in the ECU. if there are none, you may have some internal issues. I would check the fluid level first. The auto tranny uses hydraulics to shift, if there is no fluid, the tranny wont shift.

 
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come on streetglower the fluid doesn't magically disappear unless it leaks out from a hose. The tranny is junk its prolly just the clutch pack broken to pieces and now in the process of damaging the pump (thats the whine you're hearing). Once the pump goes, the car won't move. So I'd think about having it replaced very soon.

 
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Thanks guys. Any other info? I can't really go see the car myself because I live 30 miles from her. I'm just explaining what she told me. Also, what do you mean the tranny is junk? So it does need to be replaced? The entire tranny? And what is the clutch pack? How easy is it to replace? More info please. Much more.

 
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Gearbox means the tranny is junk...This model Honda Civic's have been known to slip and be shitty. While checking the transmission fluid make sure you follow the directions given in the Owners Manual....It's totally different from checking your oil.

I think what is happening is the hydrolic pump is going bad...bee sound

 
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before you replace the tranny, make sure you have checked all the easiest possible causes of failure of the tranny. You dont want to replace it and find out all that was bad was the hydraulic pump.

Now the clutch packs are what is used to engage the gears in the transmission. Unless you have the tools and knowledge, you are better off leaving it to a tranny expert. At school we took apart a basic automatic tranny from a dodge neon, and I can say even that was difficult. you have to make sure clearances are exact or you will burn up clutches or have no shift conditions. And there are alot of specialty tools you need to work on it.

your best bet would be to take it to a shop and have them diagnosis it. And it is known among this site that the automatic trannies in the new civics are ****. I dont know because mine is still running strong at 114K miles, but alot of other people, and I mean alot, have had theres fail.

 
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Strange... I've done tranny work before, but only on my BMW's. None of them were automatics. I'm guessing the best thing to do is take it to a Honda technician. Thanks for your help guys.

 
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either a good honda tech or a good transmission shop. Now manaul trannies are much much different then automatics, they also contain many more parts then a manaul.

 
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most seasoned mechanics recommend against rebuilding the honda tranny because of how fragile it is. something else will just break again. you're better off swapping in a brand new one from 05 civic and hoping honda corrected some of the factory defects.

 
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if it was sliping, click the link in my sig and watch that video i made.

btw, gearbox and i have come the conclusion that 7th Gen civic trannys dont have metal in them. isnt that right?

 
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There are also clutches in the torque converter, that is what is junk about these tranny's (according to the 3 different transmission repair places I've talked to that have had a lot of newer model Honda's with bad trannys). They flake apart, plug up the filter screen (which is non-servicable), then starves the pump until it dies.

Hope your woman has $2500-3000 cause thats what she's gonna need to replace it. $2000 for a new tranny/converter from Honda plus fluid and labor.

You could also pickup a used from for around $500-1000 if you want to take a gamble.

Hopefully it's something stupid like low tranny fluid but I wouldn't put money on it.

Jordan

 
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^^ yeah its going to start slipping like mine withina few months. alot of member's on the forum have said their cars had jjust stop working while they were driving bcuz of the tranny but mine has been doing this for over 7-8months already. but i did notice that it used to do it only when it was cold (the car) and now its doing it cold or hot, same ****

 
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there are no clutches inside of a torque converter, the converter contains a pump, turbine and a stator. Now yes some converters will have a lockup clutch, but that is about it. the clutch packs are inside of the tranny. are inside of the tranny. Now if the lockup clutch doesnt work, the car will still drive, but you can have other issues inside of the converter.

 
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does the fact that the ecu doesn't lockup the converter until the car warms up cause problems? or driving in D3?

 
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Nope, not at all. The trannies are just crap. But most autos these days are no better. Keep in mind that the modern mentality is to trade in every 3 years. Cars are built accordingly.

 
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i hate that mentality

 
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Thats exactly whats been failing on the 2000+ Accords too....and with those models it got so bad Honda put on them an extended warrenty....IF....you can show it was properly maintained...as in using their oil and the right schedule.

There's been alot of screaming at Honda to extend this warrenty to the Civic's as the same issue is affecting them. What makes me wonder is what are they replacing the bad trannies with??? Another one thats going to go in another 3 years?

 
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There's a one-way clutch inside the stator.

Edit: Also, I'm not sure if the Civic's have a lock up style converter or not, if so perhaps thats the clutch they're refering to that fails and not the one way?

 
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the stator is a one way clutches yes, but if the stator fails (free-wheels), you cant replace it, nothing in the torque converter is replaceable, you have to replace the converter. But to answer the other question, there arent any clutches in the converter. When I say that, I mean clutch packs.

 
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Yup, torque converters, under normal circumstances are not servicable but if you're capable they can be rebuilt and tweaked. Right, no clutch packs but do have "clutches". A TC itself is basically a hydraulic clutch.

I think we're on the same track, just terminology differences.

 
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umm if its in D and it just revs up, then ur tranny is gone.

 
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^^.... shut up noob. my tranny has been "slipping" for over 8 months and its still going. not gna change it till it stops on the road.....

watch the video in my sig

 
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yeahhhh you do that....ur not the sharpest tool in the shed are ya? dumb@$$

 
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why would i change it if im going to sell that pos civic? long as its working im not chaning it. why waste that extra $$?? looks like your not the "sharpest tool in the shed" ?wtf is that hillbilly ****

 
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who said anyting about changing ur tranny? i just said ur a dumb POS if ur gonna drive ur car til it stops dead on the road. and who's gonna buy ur vic w/ a fcuked up tranny? so spoonJDMIX u can kiss my


anywayz, back to the thread topic, yeah if ur car just revs up and doesn't go anywhere while in D, then ur tranny is the problem.

 
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hey if you girls cant get along, I will lock this thread. Play nice.

 
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my bad streetglower....just finishing up what that douche bag started

 
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Streetglower, You need to ban J-Unit. Seriously. I've seen about 5 threads where he comes in and contributes nothing and simply talks **** to everyone and then goes on an ego trip trying to defend himself from the stuff he started.