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Ok so recently i got the Aem Cam gear. I hadn't adjusted it but one day out of curiosity i just advanced it 2 degrees. I didn't really notice any difference except the way the car would rev. If i floored the car to rev it at the start it would kinda bog then take off and stop at 5 and then go to the redline. Well my question is, is this supposed to happen and does anyone else have this problem?

 
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pm gearbox, he has a camgear also with a 2 degree advance. ask him

 
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um dude I had mine set at 2 degrees advance. It had good pickup and i took it all the way to redline. I got a vid too if you want. Everything was smooth and it kept going in second. But I was at the dyno today, they first did +2 adv and then 0, there was pretty much no difference. The torque stayed the same. Then they started retarding it, hp went way up and torque went down slightly (1-2wtq). They ended up leaving it at -1.5degrees retarded (they said the milled head is prolly equal to another 0.5degrees retard). so its around 2 total. I don't know your setup, but aren't you supposed to retard the timing for boosted cars?? Well for mine they said -1.5 retard was best. you know this but SOHC is a tradeoff between torque and hp when adjusting the gear. They said at -1.5 there was enough extra hp to justify the loss of torque upto 3.5k rpms.

 
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im gonna remember that when i get a cam gear^^^

 
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ya his reasoning was honda motors are always hi-rev and not designed to make alot of torque. So when it was advanced, the torque only went up a little, and hp stayed the same. then when he retarded it, torque was lost, but there was much more hp being made above 5k. I think this would be true for most na modded civics with basic boltons.

 
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I think i am going to leave mine at zero it feels way better for some reason

 
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gains on the cam gear retarding? numbers?

 
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well it feels better in the middle cause with your setup, it balances between tq and hp. majinb i can't tell you exactly but did you see my last dyno with exhaust and the cam gear? I gained 10whp at 6800rpm. thats not all from the exhaust. cam changes on a stock civic are around 2-3whp at best. maybe more with other mods.