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PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

I replaced orings and seal inside the power steering pump, so now the steering is stiff hard to turn while not moving . Question is about bleeding the air? Should I put the car on jack stand and turn steering side ways until it sucks in the liquid and air out? Not getting noises or anything just hard to turn the wheel

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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

Start engine and run at fast idle, then turn the steering from lock-to-lock several times to bleed air from the system. Make sure you have enough PS fluid in the system. Do not fill above the upper level line in the reservoir.

Most issues with PS with these cars are foaming in the PS reservoir or hissing noises as a result of a leaking O-ring at the inlet/outlet hoses.
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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

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Start engine and run at fast idle, then turn the steering from lock-to-lock several times to bleed air from the system. Make sure you have enough PS fluid in the system. Do not fill above the upper level line in the reservoir.

Most issues with PS with these cars are foaming in the PS reservoir or hissing noises as a result of a leaking O-ring at the inlet/outlet hoses.
I have tried turning wheel lock to lock hundred times with engine off and on and tired of getting the car on jack stands already. I'm thinking disconnecting the PSP and driving without it. I drove with the car on highway back and forth and still hard as rock while not moving. I'm worried if I need some special tool to suctioning the air or just if I installed something wrong inside the pspump?
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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

just if I installed something wrong inside the pspump?
That's likely.

Did you use Honda steering fluid?
Not ATF.

If fluid was correct,
I'd suspect something went wrong during your reseal.
Start over.
Go to junkyard and grab another pump.
Don't open it up. Just install it. The pumps have been pretty reliable IMO.
The o ring under the inlet fitting and the o ring on the pressure hose MIGHT be needed.
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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

Originally Posted by ezone
That's likely.

Did you use Honda steering fluid?
Not ATF.

If fluid was correct,
I'd suspect something went wrong during your reseal.
Start over.
Go to junkyard and grab another pump.
Don't open it up. Just install it. The pumps have been pretty reliable IMO.
The o ring under the inlet fitting and the o ring on the pressure hose MIGHT be needed.
ty, I think I'm gonna go junk yard get one after all. Only Honda genuine steering fluid so far
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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

Originally Posted by ezone
That's likely.

Did you use Honda steering fluid?
Not ATF.

If fluid was correct,
I'd suspect something went wrong during your reseal.
Start over.
Go to junkyard and grab another pump.
Don't open it up. Just install it. The pumps have been pretty reliable IMO.
The o ring under the inlet fitting and the o ring on the pressure hose MIGHT be needed.
Went to junkyard today and grabbed one pump.
when first installed is it supposed to make that loud whining noise? The thing is not going quiet and also doesn't seem to have absorb the fluid, it is moving a bit inside the reservoir but not sure, theres little tiny bubbles but not much.

Paid $40 for the thing cause I didn't remove the pulley, those places here are like trap went hoping to pay $23 as stated in their system lqk junkies

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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

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Went to junkyard today and grabbed one pump.
when first installed is it supposed to make that loud whining noise? The thing is not going quiet and also doesn't seem to have absorb the fluid, it is moving a bit inside the reservoir but not sure, theres little tiny bubbles but not much.

Paid $40 for the thing cause I didn't remove the pulley, those places here are like trap went hoping to pay $23 as stated in their system lqk junkies
Did you old pump work before you took it apart?

New pump is howling?
Does the ps pump and fluid (depending on flow) get really hot really quick?
Did the yard plug off the hose ports and you forgot to remove it?
Could your original pump failure have sent debris through the hydraulic system?
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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

Originally Posted by ezone
Did you old pump work before you took it apart?

New pump is howling?
Does the ps pump and fluid (depending on flow) get really hot really quick?
Did the yard plug off the hose ports and you forgot to remove it?
Could your original pump failure have sent debris through the hydraulic system?
Yes, old pump worked before I took apart, I did because I had the seal and Oring kit for a long time and I thought it might had been leaking by the seal and decided to repair it because the main belt slipped and was newly installed and I went to adjust it. After I assemble it didn't make any sound, was silent not absorbing fluid or like it wasn't functioning properly might be that I put the center propeller or else wrong?

New pump is howling making way loud noise.
I think it gets hot not sure how hot is too hot now.

At junk yard i disconnected everything myself.
debris I was careful always about it, not sure now that it makes so much noise in the rack and pinion like air bubbles or else.

also I'm not sure if I needed to refill the inside of the pump before connecting the hoses? All the fluid lost hasn't been put in back yet, I did bought 2 new bottles at dealer and I have until tomorrow to return the pspump at junk yard.
Another thing I did drove the car without PSP belt on to the junk yard twice

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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

not sure how hot is too hot now.
If you start it cold and let it idle, the ps pump isnt under load and its bolted to the engine so I''d expect similar temps. If you give it 30 seconds or a minute and the ps is way hotter than the cylinder head its bolted to, that may be a problem. .

Pump hoses rack cooler reservoir. are kinda expected to be roughly similar temps to eachother.because This system is supposed to just circulate fluid until pressure is needed.
But.
A pump trying to generate maximum pressure (deadhead) creates a lot of heat in a very short time.
And if fluid is not circulating at all, the heat could all be in a limited area until it erupts..

If that circulation flow is restricted the pump will try to build pressure against the restriction. The valve in the steering rack is supposed to do that job. But if theres a clog between the pump and rack valve passages......

And a person i know really did forget to remove a plug from a pump. It must have blasted a chunk of that plug all the way inside the valve on the rack, couldn't see it but it was definitely clogged up there.
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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

Worked all day on the car flushed PSP system, bought 1 new reservoir hose and the Oring at dealer.

about 2 bottles of 12oz fluid and now the steering is soft and quiet but not the junkyard pump, pump is working but something damaged inside theres a different noise like if the bearing is bad or else. Steering is good now but I need to fix old pump or buy a good one. Worried that it might do extra damage from debris or something .
can't return the junkyard pump today expired
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Re: PS pump inside repair, seal, Oring, assembly

Yep, junkyard pump was very wearing out, bearing was shot, I did replacement of parts with mine and all good now.
my 180k miles original pump was fairly new, I shouldn't have had to open it but I messed it up first time, I believe it could had gotten debris from a piece that broke off inside when I wrongfully forced the part that rotates into the other . But all good now, next time buying bearing new and seal
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