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Brakes locking up

Originally Posted by iridehonda
Update: The problem is back. After working fine for a few days I just got home and my brakes were smoking and sure enough, it's locked up again. Any other ideas on what it could be?
Did you ever figure this out? I'm having the same exact issue!
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Re: Brake lock-up issue

Have you done anything to try and actually diagnose the issue?
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Re: Sticking brakes driving me crazy!! Help

Anyone ever have an answer to this problem? I'm currently having the same issue as the OP. I have replaced pads rotors and calipers bled them. 2 weeks later brakes lock up again. We replaced the small brake tubes and bled them again. 3 weeks and brakes lock up again. I remove the abs fuse and drive it and they lock up again.

I've ordered a new master cylinder but I've been reading some people think it would be a pedal assembly issue. Being it doesn't return fluid to the mc because it won't go back to its original position. One other post had a very similar Ossie and said this solved it. Please help 😆
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Re: Sticking brakes driving me crazy!! Help

then try a pedal assembly...
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Re: Brakes locking up

Could also be proportioning valve. Stop reviving dead threads.
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Re: Brakes locking up

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Could also be proportioning valve. Stop reviving dead threads.
so sorry to inconvenience your day of reading threads. I'm the one without a car i can drive. Again I'm sorry for reading old threads and wondering if anyone figured out their issue. This drivers side wheel lock up seems like it's happened to a decent amount of people. So on threads that explain exactly what my situation is I was hoping they had found a resolution.
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Re: Brakes locking up

so you changed:
  • pads
  • rotors (not likely related)
  • the pipes to the wheels?
  • remove ABS fuse to deactivate it
Any specific wheel or all?
still not changed:
  • master cylinder
  • pedal assembly
  • the remaining piping
  • ABS unit itself
  • rear drum cylinders
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Re: Brakes locking up

Originally Posted by sdaidoji
so you changed:
  • pads
  • rotors (not likely related)
  • the pipes to the wheels?
  • remove ABS fuse to deactivate it
Any specific wheel or all?
still not changed:
  • master cylinder
  • pedal assembly
  • the remaining piping
  • ABS unit itself
  • rear drum cylinders
this seems just to be the front tires and mainly the drivers side front. The rear wheels never were hot where the fronts were smoking. Even to the touch the rear brakes weren't hot.

I have ordered an Mc and also the brake lines were flushed. Going to do some more digging. Would it make sense for a problem with the brake pedal if it didn't return to its starting position that the fluid wouldn't all return to the MC this after hitting the pedal so much it would cause the brakes to fully lock up.

I have not replaced anything else you mentioned

This same issue with the front brakes locking up seems to have stumped so many
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Re: Brakes locking up

The only time I have seen sticking brakes was caused by seized caliper slide pins or caliper piston.

Last edited by BrotatoChip; Feb 22, 2023 at 06:19 AM. Reason: Added caliper piston
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Re: Brakes locking up

oh, yeah, i forgot the calipers in the list
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Re: Brakes locking up

reading some threads, one is about a EP3 (the hatch) which is considerably different than the sedan/coupe, do not use that too much as reference.
however, use this post from that thread as testing methods
Originally Posted by ezone
Get it hot and dragging.
Immediately jack up the rear wheels and see if the passengers rear is also in a bind.

If drivers front and passengers rear are both dragging, it's likely a master cylinder issue.
Is the master cylinder reservoir cap rubber seal deformed? If it is, that's a clue someone may have got oil in it.


Otherwise, you need to figure out of the one brake is dragging because of a hydraulic system problem or if the caliper is bad mechanically.

Get it hot and dragging, then jack up the wheel and open the bleeder and see if it releases.
If it releases, it's a hydraulic problem and you have more checking that needs done.
If it does not release, then it's a caliper problem.


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If it's been severely overheated as you say, it's probably cooked its boot and seal and is shot.....so the caliper should be replaced.
But a replacement will also get ruined if there is an underlying hydraulic problem.

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Pads that bind in the bracket.... I remove the bracket and take off the stainless clips and grind out the rust buildup, then coat the freshly exposed bare steel with Silicone grease.
Same for the slide pins.
I'm in the rust belt, I do this on almost every brake job I do.

Other people might just grind down an ear of the brake pad so it fits a little looser.

Pic of the rust buildup:




Cooked caliper, boot split open:
you said you saw pedal assembly, but they are saying the brake switch - it's much easier than the whole assembly, do not mix them up.
Originally Posted by Rrac72
Problem solved.
Ok. Hopefully this helps somebody here. I read all replies to this post and i appreciate those who responded. Your responses steered me in directions that enabled me to check and rule them out, eventually guiding me to a solution. So here goes....
The problem was caused indirectly by a brake switch. You know that switch under the dash that is activated by your brake pedal. Same one. It's a NC (normally close) switch that when deactivated by the pedal (i.e., the pedal is at rest) your brake light goes out. When you press the brake pedal, the switch is activated, thereby closing the circuit and your brake light comes on.
A few months ago, after a long day at work i found that my car would not start. The battery was dead. Apparently, there is a grommet attached to the pedal which directly pushes on this switch i mentioned earlier. It had disintegrated and so while my car was parked tall day, the switch was activated now that the grommet was not pushing up on it causing my brake light to be on, draining my battery.
Fast forward, when i got home, i found something to replace that grommet (not an original). The replacement was too thick (now i know) and what that did was prevent the brake from coming back completely in its resting position. What this translated to is that the brake fluid from the Master was not able to return completely because the spool inside did not clear the return ports hence with each press of the pedal the brake would eventually lock up. When checked, a 1/8th thicker grommet was all it took to create this problem. Had i driven the car afterwards then i might have spotted the significance of my actions...but i didn't. Anyway, now my car is driving like before......Great.
Hope this helps the next guy (or girl) .......Best of luck
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