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Hi, first timer here so I apologize in advance for any rudeness.. but I need some insights for a newb DIYer.
I got some problems for Canadian '02 LX civic (bought for CA$550 and spending more and more... endless money pit!!)
1. High beams don't work. Everything else works- blinker, low beam, side marker light?(the orange light that's beside headlight).
2. Lower-left side of Instrument panel background lights are gone. I've done some search and people are saying it's T5 socket with 2721 bulbs. Planning to swap all of it to amber lights, will these fit?
3. It's gone now but there was weird electric buzzing sound coming behind the glove box. It happened even when engine's off with key at ON position.
link for video(thought it was coming from fan but later confirmed it's behind glove box): https://photos.app.goo.gl/EnzhRBkLrY83bZRR8
4. Not often, but sometimes it's really hard to turn the key in the ignition, with steering locked. I usually shake it a bit while forcing the key to turn but I'm starting to worry if there's some major issue with this case.
Some insights or even walk-throughs of how to fixing these issues would be very greatly appreciated, thank you!
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Re: a few problems with 2002 civic lx
Originally Posted by sjs8415
Hi, first timer here so I apologize in advance for any rudeness.. but I need some insights for a newb DIYer.
I got some problems for Canadian '02 LX civic (bought for CA$550 and spending more and more... endless money pit!!)
1. High beams don't work. Everything else works- blinker, low beam, side marker light?(the orange light that's beside headlight).
2. Lower-left side of Instrument panel background lights are gone. I've done some search and people are saying it's T5 socket with 2721 bulbs. Planning to swap all of it to amber lights, will these fit? https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...5VTHUG5A&psc=1
3. It's gone now but there was weird electric buzzing sound coming behind the glove box. It happened even when engine's off with key at ON position.
link for video(thought it was coming from fan but later confirmed it's behind glove box): https://photos.app.goo.gl/EnzhRBkLrY83bZRR8
4. Not often, but sometimes it's really hard to turn the key in the ignition, with steering locked. I usually shake it a bit while forcing the key to turn but I'm starting to worry if there's some major issue with this case.
Some insights or even walk-throughs of how to fixing these issues would be very greatly appreciated, thank you!
1) are you sure both bulbs aren't just burned out?
do your DRLs work?
Does the high beam indicator work?
Otherwise start checking fuses and wiring.
2) I thought they were 168 bulbs but I could be wrong, personally I would just put the normal bulbs in Toronto Honda parts.com allows you to look up what the OEM part number is, can use that for cross reference.
3) that's probably a relay buzzing, check all your important electrical connections and make sure they're clean tight and shiny. Could be the relay is starting to fail.
4) try some graphite lube in there, otherwise the lock probably needs to be retumbled. Could also pull the tumblers right out. Means you can start the car with a screwdriver but it's a 17 year old car, probably not much of a target for theives
1) Well, I changed headlight bulbs one month ago and low beams are working perfect. Does high beams use separate bulbs?
Previous owner taped CEL and other places on the dash so I'll have to take them out to see it.
4. Not often, but sometimes it's really hard to turn the key in the ignition, with steering locked. I usually shake it a bit while forcing the key to turn but I'm starting to worry if there's some major issue with this case.
You can remove the tumbler to keep it cheap and since it has a chipped key it will only be able to be started with a programmed key.
Took off tapes from cluster and now I can see "DRL" icon being lit.
It's lit until I turn my low beams on.
When I flick the light **** back and forth to high beams, I don't see any high beam icon on cluster.
I did swapped fuses with others with high beam fuse and it didn't changed anything.
I now have used DRL module, and two PGM-FI relays. Should I disconnect negative terminal of battery to replace them?
Also... SRS light is on so I'll have to fix that next too.
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Re: a few problems with 2002 civic lx
Originally Posted by sjs8415
Okay, bit of update now.
Took off tapes from cluster and now I can see "DRL" icon being lit.
It's lit until I turn my low beams on.
that's normal, do your DRLs work?
Originally Posted by sjs8415
When I flick the light **** back and forth to high beams, I don't see any high beam icon on cluster.
I did swapped fuses with others with high beam fuse and it didn't changed anything.
I now have used DRL module, and two PGM-FI relays. Should I disconnect negative terminal of battery to replace them?
You should. However I personally wouldn't bother.
Do you have a multi meter and do you know how to check continuity? You should check if the switch has continuity for the high beam circuit
You should. However I personally wouldn't bother.
Do you have a multi meter and do you know how to check continuity? You should check if the switch has continuity for the high beam circuit
My understanding is DRL is dimmed high-beam, but I don't see any headlight unless I turn the light **** to marker lights or low beam.
I don't have multi-meter, but I could try asking around. Where and should I contact the pins to?
Check your combination light switch on the steering column for failure.
Get the code read for the SRS warning light. Common issues are a bad driver's seat belt buckle switch and the passenger's OPDS. Also check for the airbag recalls, of which there were a few.
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Re: a few problems with 2002 civic lx
Originally Posted by sjs8415
My understanding is DRL is dimmed high-beam, but I don't see any headlight unless I turn the light **** to marker lights or low beam.
I don't have multi-meter, but I could try asking around. Where and should I contact the pins to?
so you would take the switch out of the steering column and test the switch for continuity across the different positions. There's a sticky in the main 7th Gen section with a link to download the factory repair manual, that will tell you what pin is what
Thanks, I got a zip file of various manuals. I can't seem to find section regarding 'headlight', though I see the word in glossary. Will continue to dig from manuals
I'm not sure how the DRLs work on the Civic but on my '06 Accord the high beams are used for the DRLs. When the DRLs are on the high beam indicator is also on.
I think you have it all fixed properly, try this:
with the car off and the parking brake on start the engine.
Drl light on now?
Engine started when parking brake is on: DRL light is on.
Take off the parking brake: headlight turns on with blue highbeam indicator
Apply parking brake again: headlight stays on with blue highbeam indicator (DRL)
I think it's fixed! Cheers to all helped me. Next step would be replacing instrument panel bulbs. I'll start working on it after I'm done moving to new place (can you believe a landlord turning off the washing machine just because I wash my clothes twice a week? )
From repair manual 22-87.
So currently, lower left bulb is out so I can't see coolant gauge in night- along with ODO meter. I think all the other indicators work but basically, I'm looking to swap the bulbs to these: